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[OttoinGrotto]

Well last years line had Servais who played all the time and Tisdale who played a lot due to injuries and they both graded terribly. Both were failures especially Tisdale. So they dragged the team grade down. And I nor anyone has ever said PPF is the end all for the NFL teams. It’s one more tool in the tool box.

I also know they do a lot more than grade college players. They grade pro players too. They do draft analysis. They do fantasy stuff. They do about 100 other things. Here’s a sample of quotes.

“PFF saved us 10,000-man hours in our scouting process this past draft.” – NFL Front Office

“PFF Ultimate is the best product on the market, we use it every day.” – NFL Front Office

“PFF Data saves me 10 hours per week in season drawing play cards.” – NFL Coach

“We attributed all three special teams return TDs in 2017 to PFF data.” – FBS Special Teams Coach

“One of the things we asked Mike at the beginning of the year was always look at stacks and bunches. We always feel like stacks and bunches is important to understand how things play out. He is our stacks and bunches guru. We use PFF [Pro Football Focus] to give us a folder of stacks and bunches every week.” – Super Bowl LII Champion Offensive Coordinator, Frank Reich (via Sports Illustrated)

“Both of our pick-6’s in 2017 were a result of PFF tendency breakdowns.” – Power 5 Defensive Coach

"PFF's right to evaluate players ends the moment they step on to my football field." - 3YL

 

[SU94]

My greatest wonder is that last year, our OLine was astoundingly good in the running game and putrid pass blocking. Complete 180 this year, with the same/similar personnel. I guess it is Anae's system.

By the way, it may not looks like it by this post, but I am a big proponent of Anae (and Beck) and what he has done here in a short amount of time. He’s not perfect. Every now and again, he makes a big blunder. Ask the Virginia fanbase. But we are well above grade in creativity and ingenuity on the offensive side of the football. I hope he retires here in about ten years, because realistically, we are not going to do much better as a program.

 

[rrlbees]

Exactly. Those are among the many services PFF offers. And I mentioned that. What teams are not doing, is abiding by the individual grades or unit grades that you referenced. It’s poppycock. And flawed in practice.

Last year, SU averaged 5.2 y/c. And that was with Schrader only starting, what, 7 games (was it 8)?

This year, through 8 games, with Schrader (who is an obvious running threat every down), they’re averaging 4.6 y/c. And as I said in the initial post, we cannot run between the tackles for more than 3 yards. Usually, it is 0 or 1.

I would like to draw an analogy for you on these individual or unit grades (you cite them with some frequency)

MLB umpires are all taught, over the course of their careers, which span decades, one singular strike zone. I mean, MLB has practiced and programming in place to constantly teach, hone and attempt to perfect the mechanics of calling balls and strikes properly.

And yet, every umpire has a different strike zone. Some are better than others. Some get fooled down and away. Others struggle with the top of the zone.

If cannot be any different for PFF, which has been around for 10-15 years. The guys grading SU in 2022 is very likely not the same dude as in 2021. And the guy grading SU is not the same guy grading Washington State. Same with the Bills and Cardinals.

The good thing about PFF is that you don’t need to use it.

 

[upperdeck]

You should tell all that to the NFL teams who all subscribe to them as well as 75% of the FBS.

yup.. but ask the coaches about what they think about the grades though. Subscribing to an unbiased service doesnt also mean you buy in 100% on the grades.

NFL teams run much less schemes and easier to grade. every game in the NFL you can get an all 22 view.. In college with so many games and less quality films much harder to do a real grade

We have run how many running plays this year and you can count on 2 hands the decent holes we have created.

 

[rrlbees]

yup.. but ask the coaches about what they think about the grades though. Subscribing to an unbiased service doesnt also mean you buy in 100% on the grades.

NFL teams run much less schemes and easier to grade. every game in the NFL you can get an all 22 view.. In college with so many games and less quality films much harder to do a real grade

We have run how many running plays this year and you can count on 2 hands the decent holes we have created.

Nobody is saying we have a great OL. Certainly not ND like who is graded as the 5th best. Berg is the only one graded as good. The others are graded average.

 

[FrancoPizza]

You should tell all that to the NFL teams who all subscribe to them as well as 75% of the FBS.

If you take the PFF as gospel and believe the run blocking is about the same as last year, the only conclusion would be that Tucker has either regressed or is playing injured.

 

[rrlbees]

If you take the PFF as gospel and believe the run blocking is about the same as last year, the only conclusion would be that Tucker has either regressed or is playing injured.

Tucker and Shrader have been playing hurt off and on this year.