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Message: [QUOTE="djorange1989, post: 3963518, member: 3508"] Tommy is ninth all time because we throw the ball a lot now, as do most teams, this is a totally different era of college football, QBs are breaking team and national records every year. Maybe I am forgetting(I am not being sarcastic so correct me if I am wrong) but what game against a P5 team did Tommy put up good numbers and most of them weren't in garbage time when the game was out of hand? As a starter, not in 2018. Western Michigan in 2019 is the one game where I remember him being terrific, but that is a MAC defense. I don't think there is one person on this board who is saying Shrader is a slam dunk, those who want him to start are saying we are 100% screwed if Tommy is our starter and we at least would have some hope of a better outcome with Shrader as the unknown. 4 series tells us nothing. [/QUOTE]