Gbinije needs to be more aggressive

[Capt. Tuttle]

I am alittle suprised to see the closemindedness. I don't mind people saying they dissagree,but its far, far, from a Bad Idea.

Gbinije and Ennis would both be at their best strengths when they they first get in the game doing so.

Brining Ennis in to play pg/sg combo with the best scorers around him is best for him to get settled in as a pg/sg combo.

And utilizing gbinije off the ball as a entry/perimeter passer attacking the offensive boards off the ball while utilizing him as a transition pg instead of halfcourt one is whats best for him.

Bringing in Ennis and Grant at first whistle would be alot better then just bringing in grant for a 6th man scoring surge. Saying Ennis is our only pg is the reason we come up with to dissagree. We started brandon triche as a freshmen in 11-12, and brought scoop off the bench as a entry pass only pg, and were the best team in the country doing so.

Honestly I thought I would get a few likes and some jealous people wishing they came up with it.

Yeah, let's put the SF pretending he's a PG ahead of one of the best pure PGs SU has recruited in recent memory. Let's sit Fair as well.
The 3 most important players this year are, in order, Ennis, Fair, Cooney. Everyone else has an interchangeable part, and to some extent Grant/Roberson could make up for Fair, if they play really well. No one on the roster can replace what Ennis and Cooney can bring to the team.

 

[orangefan13]

I wasn't trying to put him ahead, in any way or form, just to keep things down to earth.

I was brainstorming on finding the best chemistry for the half court offense, and utilizing Gbinie and Ennis to their strengths from the get go.
The argument against my post by others above is Gbinije can't handle the ball to get us to the half court offense and will lose it to much before then, not half court chemistry. That he is not as ready to handle the ball over halfcourt as freshmen triche, or Josh Wright if we didn't have Ennis. And thats fair enough. Maybe they have more eye for that then I do.

Also Gbinije is technically a 3rd year player with a extra year of high school and probably 3 years older then Ennis. Ennis has a high iq for the game, and is probably already in nba mock drafts. Kids like that understand sacrifices for team chemistry, its in their basketball iq.

Thets not blow things out of porportion and say I was suggesting something insane. Offenisve chemistry in the alfcourt means everything starting can mean nothing.

 

[BlackKnight76]

I'm totally lost...

 

[rrlbees]

I wasn't trying to put him ahead, in any way or form, just to keep things down to earth.

"I strongly feel we should consider starting Gbinije and Cooney right now for team chemisty purposes."


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[tee1222]

Most important position this year, and that will be filled by Ennis for at least 90% of the time. I want the primary ball handler and distributor to start and build chemistry from the opening tip. That's Ennis, not Gbinije. Sorry orangefan13, but there should be no other way.

 

[albanycuse]

Most important position this year, and that will be filled Ennis for at least 90% of the time. I want the primary ball handler and distributor to start and build chemistry from the opening tip. That's Ennis, not Gbinije. Sorry orangefan13, but there should be no other way.

Orangefan13 is a good guy who happens to say crazy things twice a week : )

 

[tee1222]

Orangefan13 is a good guy who happens to say crazy things twice a week : )

Yeah, good man no doubt. Either way, I think I like the Roberson or CJ at guard idea better than sitting Tyler the Creator to start. MikeG has the dribbler's yips right now.

 

[Garbs]

wow

 

[ORRange]

it's early, so the staff must have seen Mike play better in practice. But he doesn't seem to have the ability to break down anyone off the dribble and get into the lane to make plays. In Canada, even when he wasn't playing the point he couldn't get around other forwards, so how can he beat the PG's in the ACC. According to Waters in the chatroom tonight , he doesn't think Buss can be a combo. Not exactly what I was hoping to hear. Ennis will be wearing out his sneaks this year. So I guess I'm in the camp that Mike shouldn't start at the point.

 

[Cusefan10923]

Well the good thing in regards to Gbinije is 90%, if not more of his minutes on the court are going to be off the ball. I think that his skills at the pg are being blown up a little too much, and I only say that because when it comes down to it I really don't see him playing it much. Like JB said, Ennis will play about 38 mins a game.

Plus, after this year Gbinije doesn't have to worry about the pg thing at all and can hopefully fully settle into his more natural positions at the 2 and 3. I believe that this whole backup pg thing will only help his game in the long run with improving his versatility and ball handling skills. This I hope makes him a much more dynamic player for his final two years here.

Staying positive guys!

 

[SU_Fan_in_VA]

I may be in the minority on this, but I believe Gbinije is playing a little bit too uptight right now becuase of his new role as a PG, and once he gets comfortable we are going to see a different player. Below is video highlights of Gbinije from the 2011 NC Pro-Am Summer League to give a taste of what to expect when he gets it together. I am a believer, I am optimistic:

 

[BlackKnight76]

I may be in the minority on this, but I believe Gbinije is playing a little bit too uptight right now becuase of his new role as a PG, and once he gets comfortable we are going to see a different player. Below is video highlights of Gbinije from the 2011 NC Pro-Am Summer League to give a taste of what to expect when he gets it together. I am a believer, I am optimistic:

We're all also probably overreacting a bit because his main position will be the two anyway. We just need him to not be a disaster at the point for 5-10 mpg.

 

[cuseguy]

We're all also probably overreacting a bit because his main position will be the two anyway. We just need him to not be a disaster at the point for 5-10 mpg.

We just have to hope that no one presses us when he's in the game. The press is going to give us problems even when Ennis is playing. We don't have many ball handlers .

 

[Cuse_NYC]

We're all also probably overreacting a bit because his main position will be the two anyway. We just need him to not be a disaster at the point for 5-10 mpg.

Honestly, I don't know how anyone can even feel comforatble with him at the 2. I'm hopeful that somehow something will click for him, but wouldn't bet the farm. BJ may be be the better option, though Mike G would realllllly have to look bad for Boeheim to have BJ take his minutes. BJ can score. Defense isn't the problem...

 

[orangefan13]

Nice video find , he actually shows a solid multiple bounces throught the legs dribble, stop and go, crossover, shuffle step, spin move(although I am not sure it was off the bounce), and A good physical change of directionswith a backdown going left and right(the Billy E would like to see him try that alittle more). His hand was out alot to knock opponents hands away.
Gbinije has the moves, it must be a issue at this level of blowby speed, lateral step, hes to tall to advance the ball or something. Buss I have only seen a crossover and occasional stutter step from.

Gbinije has like 12 turnovers 0 shots and 0 assists when he has drove the lane this year. When you combine that with a guy who is only going to shoot 1 jumper a game I can't envision him as a sg in the halfcourt in any way or form.

When we were in a hole against carlton though, he had 2-4 huge offensive rebounds and putbacks to help us win, a skill that is better suited chemistry wise for pg's then sg's within our offense imo.

In fairness I am not sure he has tried to slow down his game down, or just tried to move the ball around off of one or two bounces with a erect back yet.

When Gbinije and Cooney are in the game together Cooney will have to rely less on trying to get open and more on working the ball around. Something he hasn't worked on this year.

 

[iommi]

We just have to hope that no one presses us when he's in the game. The press is going to give us problems even when Ennis is playing. We don't have many ball handlers .

That's why Duke could be a problem. They'll be in our jocks all game long. Maybe we can exploit them with our forwards, so it'll be an interesting matchup.

 

[albanycuse]

That's why Duke could be a problem. They'll be in our jocks all game long. Maybe we can exploit them with our forwards, so it'll be an interesting matchup.

We can break the press with our forwards, it wont look pretty but we can do it.