Girard

[two3zone]

Seriously, if I was JG3’s age and read this board I’d be upset. He helped seal the last game and played well in this one. Looks like his confidence is improving. Lets recognize his strong contribution.

Helped seal the last game? He was a solid -9 before he came back in and we blew a huge lead when he came in. We won in spite of him and his poor decisions on the court. Did he hit a couple of free throws? Sure. But also threw a ball to a double teamed player on the sideline because he picks his dribble up when a guy gets too close to him.

 

[CU44SE]

Joe played well tonight. It’s what we need him to do and what we expect after playing a lot of minutes last year. But let’s not all of a sudden pretend like this is the norm. I hope he keeps it up because if this team has any chance of making the tournament we need solid minutes from him when kadary or buddy are on the bench.

 

[Orangefan1]

Are there people here that want him to transfer?

jesus

it’s ridiculous our fan base sometimes Girard basically has three years left here and will only improve

 

[two3zone]

it’s ridiculous our fan base sometimes Girard basically has three years left here and will only improve

Like he improved from last year to this year even without a leash for 3/4ths if our season? Or like the rest of improvements our staff has made with our other success stories?

 

[Funk Doc]

it’s ridiculous our fan base sometimes Girard basically has three years left here and will only improve

Yeah...I’d also like to see him play his actual position. If he got the same minutes off the ball with Kadary, I’m sure he’d get less crap from this board.

 

[two3zone]

Yeah...I’d also like to see him play his actual position. If he got the same minutes off the ball with Kadary, I’m sure he’d get less crap from this board.

Sure, but Buddy is playing 35+ probably the rest of Joe’s career. There isn’t a spot for him.

 

[HoustonCuse]

Why was Dolezaj bringing the ball up on the last couple possessions?

 

[patcuse]

Why was Dolezaj bringing the ball up on the last couple possessions?

Because Clemson was in man press and Dolezaj can easily handle their big guarding him.

 

[syrBossHogg]

I don't want Joe to leave at all

 

[Sherman20]

No. I don't think there are. I think people are thinking that he may leave if he sees Kadray ahead of him. I have had basketball people, non Syracuse fans, say the same thing.

I live near his hometown, and some people (who knows if they are legit sources) think he might transfer. He seems like a great team guy, but they say he realizes that if Buddy isn’t going to play the 3 next year, he will automatically get 35-40 minutes a game at the 2 (just like tonight even shooting 2-10 from deep) and that means not a lot of time for him assuming Kadary starts at the point. Not sure if JB will commit to Joe during exit meetings that Buddy will be playing the 3 next year. We shall see...

And leave Syracuse with only two guards on the whole team? Joe ain’t goin nowhere. He’ll see there are 3-4 guards at most other major programs and realize he’ll have an even more uphill battle if he transfers. I think Goodine is learning that lesson this season. People are crazy. We only have 3 guards. There’s plenty of playing time for all of them, as JB has proven.

 

[Giants1973]

And leave Syracuse with only two guards on the whole team? Joe ain’t goin nowhere. He’ll see there are 3-4 guards at most other major programs and realize he’ll have an even more uphill battle if he transfers. I think Goodine is learning that lesson this season. People are crazy. We only have 3 guards. There’s plenty of playing time for all of them, as JB has proven.

Buddy and kandy need start next year

 

[Bball44]

Because Clemson was in man press and Dolezaj can easily handle their big guarding him.

Sounds like good coaching.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I think we will find out, this off season, that there has been a lingering injury (or other issue) with Joe. Based upon the kid I saw last year, I think he will come back in such a way that it will be very hard to keep him off the floor.

It seems to me that many people who thought our now gone guards could play (they can’t) think Joe can’t play, when he proved the opposite last year.

If he leaves, it will hurt SU more than it will hurt Joe.

 

[tptcuse]

This thread started off nicely.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Sounds like good coaching.

Historically, JB has let talented forwards handle the man-to-man full court pressure.

 

[GoSU96]

Have you been watching? We’ve been down every single game the past month before Kadary comes in until today, he’s one of the least efficient starters in the history of JB coaching and plays the worst defense in the zone in the history of our zone.

I’m sorry I’m not waving the orange pom poms for him having a game he didn’t look awful. I don’t know what game you’re watching if you think this kid is a legitimate point guard or even an ACC level guard.

You're FOS. He can definitely play at this level. Can he carry a team game in and game out, not really, doesn't mean he can't play at this level, he's proven he can already.

 

[MSOrange]

And leave Syracuse with only two guards on the whole team? Joe ain’t goin nowhere. He’ll see there are 3-4 guards at most other major programs and realize he’ll have an even more uphill battle if he transfers. I think Goodine is learning that lesson this season. People are crazy. We only have 3 guards. There’s plenty of playing time for all of them, as JB has proven.

Agree. I want Kadary to start but think there's a role for Girard as a 3rd guard. Going into next season with 2 guards seems...problematic.

 

[MikeSU02]

Agree. I want Kadary to start but think there's a role for Girard as a 3rd guard. Going into next season with 2 guards seems...problematic.

Going into the season with only *three* guards is problematic.

 

[DaCuse]

do players read this forum?

 

[50YRsofCuse]

Joe was recruited by BC, BYU, UM, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Duke, Penn St, UMass ans Washington to name a few. Do you think that all of these schools were looking at him to play point guard? With his scoring ability, he could be an off the bench scorer for all of these schools. We shoehorned him as a point guard based on his height and personnel on the team. No, he can’t play enter or forward But I would not give up on him. He won the starting job as a freshman over Chaney and Goodine who were projected way higher than he was.

Crap, let him contribute the way he can And grouse about something else. Buddy, Kadary and Joe can split the time next year whoever is hot at the time and the situation dictates.

 

[MSOrange]

Going into the season with only *three* guards is problematic.

Trust me, I won't argue. Probably didn't expect all 3 to transfer, but they did and it's a problem.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

IDK about players, and I can only speak to FB years ago, but parents do, at least at the beginning.

 

[elimunelson]

Joe Girard is going to leave because the coach was super flexible with him and started him well into the season when the prevailing thought was Kadary was playing better?

We are talking crazy right now. JG needs to work on his game this summer and be the best Orangeman next two years. Transferring is the simple way out. Boeheim has been unbelievably patient w his game IMO.

 

[Orangezoo]

So I watched the game last night again. I love Kadary and he is key for us I don't change that view. With that said, the alley oop to Guerrier is neck and neck with Kadary for best reads/plays of the year. It's not Joe's first either.

Joe needs to commit to playing the point. I know he has looked good off the ball but if Marek leaves we need another guard who can facilitate to fill that void. He absolutely is capable and has made some gorgeous passes. If he works his tail off to be able to run the point against pressure and start burning defenders when they crowd him he could have a great finish to his career. He also could make the 3 guard lineup deadly because he and Kadary can share responsibilities when that lineup is out there.

It's gonna take work and a commitment from him. He also needs to develop a working floater a la GMac. It's really going to be up to Joe. I would have last night's game on replay in my mind if I were Joe as that is 1000 pct what we need from him every night. He will make some of those 3s he took and thus be in the 10-12 pts a game range when he is on.

 

[orangefog]

Just be honest with the players. All spots are open. Work your butts off. Kadary, work on that jump shot. Joe, tighten up your handle and work on your point guard skills. Buddy, I’ll see you at dinner.