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Message: [QUOTE="sabach, post: 1545119, member: 866"] I think the SU basketball brand lost some identity when they joined the ACC if for no other reason than (1) we were the Big East and we will never be the ACC with Duke and UNC there, (2) we gave up our eastern rivals (Georgetown and UConn), (3) we gave up the Big East Tournament in NYC for a nondescript wine and cheese party in Greensboro. JB himself was against the move to the ACC in part for these very reasons. I understand why we joined the ACC but to state that a conference change does not result in a diminished identity is not correct. ND will lose some identity if they join a conference, unlike SU though, they can afford stay where they are for now. [/QUOTE]