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Message: [QUOTE="bpo57, post: 1547678, member: 1572"] Appreciate the call, FCS. I'll tell you how it works. There are people on this board that will tie themselves into pretzels using whatever logic they can muster to justify why ND should not be in the F4. Why do they feel that way? Four main reasons. 1) they're either long time ND haters, maybe even dating back to some kerfuffle that happened between ND and SU in the early 1960s; 2) they're annoyed that ND won't do a home and home with SU ; 3) they're annoyed that ND won't join the ACC for football and 4) they didn't like the movie "Rudy." Thanks for calling. [/QUOTE]