Gottlieb raises SU losing #1 seed

[Madbiker]

if they were to lose a couple of remaining games to UConn and Ville. He made case for both KU and Missou getting #1's even if they split their remaining regular season game and likely meeting the the Big 12 tourney. His logic is that Ohio St. could still earn a #1 seed if they beat MSU so if SU loses a couple we'd be moved down. You can tell he thinks the BE is weak and that therefore SU lacks wins over other elite teams though he didn't say it in so many words.

 

[arbitragegls]

not sure I disagree with him...neither Uconn nor Ville are strong this year. He also indicated that Uconn's shot to maybe make the NCAA is to beat 'Cuse...he also was clear that Uconn seems to quit in the second half against teams that build a 10 point lead or more against them...I would have to agree that a Marquette team without anyone taller than 6'7 ate Uconns lunch.

My worry is that Marquette is a very good team...and the next time we play them will be a dog fight just like last year's NCAA game.

 

[jdubs30]

Our final RPI and SOS will matter. If we split UConn/Ville and lose on Thursday in the BET I could see us getting a 2 seed though.

 

[44cuse]

He's right.

Win and nothing else matters.

44cuse

 

[jdubs30]

He's right.

Win and nothing else matters.

44cuse

Yep. Feels good to control our seeding for once. As long as we do our job we'll be the #1 in Boston no matter what any other team does.

 

[CusefanATL]

Our final RPI and SOS will matter. If we split UConn/Ville and lose on Thursday in the BET I could see us getting a 2 seed though.

with 3 losses?

i think you are out of your mind. but who knows, maybe i am.

 

[jdubs30]

with 3 losses?

i think you are out of your mind. but who knows, maybe i am.

If UK holds serve they'll be a 1

In my situation I think OSU, Mizzou/Kansas and UNC/Duke get the other 1s (this is assuming they all win out; obviously if Mizzou/OSU don't win their conference tourneys we'd still have a good shot at a number 1).

 

[nyucuse]

Our final RPI and SOS will matter. If we split UConn/Ville and lose on Thursday in the BET I could see us getting a 2 seed though.

No way dude... if we end the regular season at 29-2, it is an absolute lock that we are a 1 seed. NO CHANCE otherwise. Even is we end up 28-3 regular season I am almost positive we end up with a 1. That is just a flatout phenomenal regular season and the other teams out there aside from Kentucky, maybe Mizzou, cannot match that, no matter what they do from here on out. And it would be an absolute joke for some jackass like Gottleib to even suggest otherwise.

 

[Eric15]

Our final RPI and SOS will matter. If we split UConn/Ville and lose on Thursday in the BET I could see us getting a 2 seed though.

In that scenario, I think there's a 80-85% chance we still get a 1 seed.

 

[dasher]

If UK holds serve they'll be a 1

In my situation I think OSU, Mizzou/Kansas and UNC/Duke get the other 1s (this is assuming they all win out; obviously if Mizzou/OSU don't win their conference tourneys we'd still have a good shot at a number 1).

If we win out and Kentucky wins out, we will be the #1 overall.

 

[jdubs30]

In that scenario, I think there's a 75% chance we still get a 1 seed.

Mizzou winning out would mean they'd finish with 2 losses, beaten Kansas twice (possibly 3 times) and won the Big 12 reg season and tournament

OSU winning out would mean they'd have 4 losses, but would be the reg and post season champs of arguably the best conference this year

Duke same thing as OSU; 4 losses, reg+post season champs, would have beaten UNC 2 (possibly 3) times

I'd be shocked to get a 1 seed then. We'd have 1 less loss than OSU and Duke, but we wouldn't have the Big East automatic bid.

However, I do think we will get a 1 seed, and that scenario I just stated is unlikely, but I was just saying.

 

[jdubs30]

If we win out and Kentucky wins out, we will be the #1 overall.

Yes

 

[PeteCalvin]

if they were to lose a couple of remaining games to UConn and Ville. He made case for both KU and Missou getting #1's even if they split their remaining regular season game and likely meeting the the Big 12 tourney. His logic is that Ohio St. could still earn a #1 seed if they beat MSU so if SU loses a couple we'd be moved down. You can tell he thinks the BE is weak and that therefore SU lacks wins over other elite teams though he didn't say it in so many words.

Doug can say what he wants. He can think our schedule is weak all he wants. If SU wins out, we will have the #1 overall seed.

By the way, I hope he uses the same logic should UK lose. They play weaker opponents than we do.

Gottlieb is a douche. He raises valid points, but the way he twists everything is plain douchy.

 

[stuckinbig11]

Don't fall into the trap, folks. Think of it in math terms: Gottlieb/ESPN = Igor/Syracusefan

 

[jordoo]

We are the #1 seed overall right now. Forget the polls and Dugg! If we lose a game and UK doesn't they can pass us but we are still getting the one seed in Boston with 2 losses.

 

[mantonio]

Win the Big East Regular Season, & Syracuse gets the 1 seed.

I think the 2 remaining one seeds are among Mizzou, Ohio State, & Kansas.

 

[osullfam]

Yes

YES, THAT"S CORRECT, SIR.

 

[JohnCuse44]

Can we please put a moratorium on all Doug SnotDweeb posts? Who cares what this ass clown says.

 

[orangefan13]

UK has been beating teams by 15 the last 8-9 games. Hard to not call them the best overall weaker competition or not.

Don't forget the BET is out there to.

 

[AZOrange]

In that scenario, I think there's a 80-85% chance we still get a 1 seed.

more like 100%

 

[mikekan14]

If we win out and Kentucky wins out, we will be the #1 overall.

By "win out" you mean winning the BET? If UK wins the SEC tourney but we don't win ours, I think UK gets the first #1 seed. If we both win our respective conference tournaments, I think SU gets the top #1 seed. If we lose one more time (regular season or BET), we could fall to the third #1 seed depending on how KU or Mizzou finish their seasons.

 

[PoppyHart]

Our OOC schedule was putrid. And it's likely that Marquette, ND and Gtown finish in the 2-4 slots. We played one of them in their place and got walloped.

It's still very very likely we get the #1, even if we lose 2 more time in the reg. season, and once in the BET. But I can certainly foresee scenarios where we get the two seed with 3 losses.

For example:
Kentucky is a lock.
Missou beats KU again in reg. season and at least reaches final of Big 12
Duke beats UNC at Cameron and at least reaches final of ACC tourney
OSU/MSU run table

 

[themole]

SU would have to go 1-4 from here (1-3 reg season, 0-1 BET) to be in serious risk of losing a 1 seed

 

[orangefan13]

The forth best team in the country right now has 4 losses. (levaing out murray and st marys).
duke osu nc baylor unlv sdstate gonzaga all have 4 losses. missouri has two.

every other team outside of mizzou and uk having atleast 4 losses means we would have to lose 2 of our last few games and one in the BET to be tied for 3rd place with 4 losses. Seriously doubt that happens. It could, but this team needs to get work finished going into uconn.

duke, osu, nc state and Baylor as of right now will battle for the the forth one seed right now.
And It is way more likely that Missou who already has two losses will drop two before we do. They still have at kansas.

 

[PoppyHart]

Why does the number of losses automatically determine who gets seeded higher?

The forth best team in the country right now has 4 losses. (levaing out murray and st marys).
duke osu nc baylor unlv sdstate gonzaga all have 4 losses. missouri has two.

every other team outside of mizzou and uk having atleast 4 losses means we would have to lose 2 of our last few games and one in the BET to be tied for 3rd place with 4 losses. Seriously doubt that happens. It could, but this team needs to get work finished going into uconn.

duke, osu, nc state and Baylor as of right now will battle for the the forth one seed right now. And It is way more likely that Missou will drop before we do loosing two putting there one seed in danger.
They still have at kansas.