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Message: [QUOTE="721Comstock, post: 2637868, member: 5429"] I read this as being more the second version - was awful as a Frosh, fans hated them, and then turned out way better than initially anticipated. So besides Rak (and Fab - R.I.P.), Rony Seikaly is for sure on the All-Time Crow Chef team for Bigs. He literally had zero basketball skills when he arrived on campus; he could tomahawk dunk, and foul dudes, and that was it. That he went on to be an AA player, and had a decade long NBA career where he averaged nearly a double-double would be completely inconceivable to anybody who saw him as a Frosh. As far as "meh" or "plan B" recruits that ended up being awesome, Sherm & Hak are your All-Timers. [/QUOTE]