Hardnosed

[Scooch]

Splitting some mighty fine hairs. I think if you want to say they appear headed in a different direction as a program your boat would hold more water.

Yeah, I know it kills people here, as it damn well should, but KaiserUEO is right, there's no debating that B-freakin'-C has been a better program than us over the past 15 years.

Since 1999 (15 year plus this season, or post-McNabb if you will) BC has gone 122-79 (.607 winning %), been to 13 bowl games (admittedly all of the crappy variety), has ended the season ranked 5 times and has been ranked during some point of a season 7 times. BC has won 5 or less games twice.

Oh and they've been to 2 ACC champ games.

Meanwhile SU has gone 84-109 (.435 winning %), been to 6 bowl games (admittedly all of the crappy variety), had ended the season ranked 1 time and as been ranked during some point of a season 2 times. SU has won 5 or less games 8 times.

Hell, even if you remove the GRob years we're 74-72 in the other 11+ seasons.

Look, I loved the 90s. I was in my 20s, I could rock and roll all night and party every day.

But it ain't the 90s anymore. Too many SU fans haven't come to grips with that.

 

[OrangeSky]

Might not be hard "nosed" anymore, but have you seen the abuse his nips have been giving his jackets all season long? We're talking multiple layers of clothing here.

This an incredibly disturbing observation.

 

[oldpinepoint]

This an incredibly disturbing observation.

Agreed

 

[SU2NASA]

BC is going to beat Syracuse by 30 next week.

They've had a better program than us for 15 years.

Maybe not all 15...

 

[Frozen]

Maybe not all 15...

Hey, I like those uniforms!

 

[SU2NASA]

Hey, I like those uniforms!

And when you saw them you immediately recognized Syracuse. I guess the good thing about the new uniforms is that nobody recognizes it's Syracuse.

 

[Chip]

And when you saw them you immediately recognized Syracuse. I guess the good thing about the new uniforms is that nobody recognizes it's Syracuse.

Friend 1: Who's that terrible gray team?

Friend 2: I'm not sure.

(grabs remote)

 

[im4cuse]

Diamond Ferri is not walking through that door ... alas

 

[tep624]

Yeah, I know it kills people here, as it damn well should, but KaiserUEO is right, there's no debating that B-freakin'-C has been a better program than us over the past 15 years.

Since 1999 (15 year plus this season, or post-McNabb if you will) BC has gone 122-79 (.607 winning %), been to 13 bowl games (admittedly all of the crappy variety), has ended the season ranked 5 times and has been ranked during some point of a season 7 times. BC has won 5 or less games twice.

Oh and they've been to 2 ACC champ games.

Meanwhile SU has gone 84-109 (.435 winning %), been to 6 bowl games (admittedly all of the crappy variety), had ended the season ranked 1 time and as been ranked during some point of a season 2 times. SU has won 5 or less games 8 times.

Hell, even if you remove the GRob years we're 74-72 in the other 11+ seasons.

Look, I loved the 90s. I was in my 20s, I could rock and roll all night and party every day.

But it ain't the 90s anymore. Too many SU fans haven't come to grips with that.

We've actually had more wins over the past 5 years than the have. Just an FYI. Last 15, they're better, Last 10 they're better, Last 5, we're better.

 

[Scooch]

We've actually had more wins over the past 5 years than the have. Just an FYI. Last 15, they're better, Last 10 they're better, Last 5, we're better.

Yeah, 31 wins for us, 26 for them.

But they bottomed out under Spaz in 2012 (2 wins) and are looking at two 7 win years under Addazio as they rebuild.

We had an 8 win season in year 4 of our rebuild and have slipped to 3 two years later.

We can slice this a bunch of ways but it's *cking unacceptable to be on losing end of any comparison with BC.

 

[TheCusian]

Alright, I know when I've been beat and know when to admit I was wrong.

But damn I hate that it's true.

 

[tep624]

Yeah, 31 wins for us, 26 for them.

But they bottomed out under Spaz in 2012 (2 wins) and are looking at two 7 win years under Addazio as they rebuild.

We had an 8 win season in year 4 of our rebuild and have slipped to 3 two years later.

We can slice this a bunch of ways but it's *cking unacceptable to be on losing end of any comparison with BC.

Not considering next year, it does look like we're heading back down and they're at least maintaining an average status, 2 average years under Addazio after Spaz's Spazzing.

I think we'll bounce back next year, but it's an unknown right now so you're point is pretty valid.