HC Gary Gait

[dwilmont44]

4-10
8-7
12-6

1 tournament appearance
1 tournament win

Record wise it seems like they're trending in the right direction.

What do you folks think about his tenure so far?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Fire Desko !!!!

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

Trending the right way. Our recruiting was woefully below a top 10 standard. It’s tough to win with sophomores in an era of 5th and 6th year players.

 

[dwilmont44]

Fire Desko !!!!

Take it to the Fire Desko thread. This is about the current Syracuse Men's Lacrosse coach.

 

[Cuse All-In]

I think next year will really decide how we view Gait. The talent will be matched with experience and McCool is touted to be solid. Odierna and March will need to demonstrate they can coach at an elite level. So far, March has not. The ACC should be weaker next year - particularly ND.

 

[ForCuseSake]

Trending the right way. Our recruiting was woefully below a top 10 standard. It’s tough to win with sophomores in an era of 5th and 6th year players.

This is a great point about Covid super seniors falling off rosters next year.

I think (hope) some of the young offensive guys play more assertive and aggressive next year.

I love how well they move the ball but I’d rather see 1-3 guys take the bull by the horns rather than defer to teammates.

 

[bjred]

Fire Desko !!!!

Make sure you tip your cap first.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

patrick ewing was one of the all time great college players. great coach ?

I'm pretty sure that almost every D1 head coach was a former player at some point.

 

[tbonezone]

I'm pretty sure that almost every D1 head coach was a former player at some point.

true enuf . i stated that being the former doesn't necessarily make you the latter. as in i'm also sure a lot of former great players aren't great coaches. you dig ?

 

[orangecuse]

true enuf . i stated that being the former doesn't necessarily make you the latter. as in i'm also sure a lot of former great players aren't great coaches. you dig ?

Yeah, his particular response missed your obvious point big time.

 

[OrangeinBoston]

Trending in the right direction. I think he hires good assistants and lets them coach which is what good CEOs do (and occasionally provide input). I do think both March and Odierno have to step up next year. Also, a lot depends on the incoming recruits and who SU gets off the portal. As others have said, we need a rocket-fast dodger - Bucktooth?

 

[SkyTopBus44]

This is a great point about Covid super seniors falling off rosters next year.

I think (hope) some of the young offensive guys play more assertive and aggressive next year.

Wasn’t Denver a young team?

Tiffany had UVa back to the final four in a short time. Just saying

 

[CousCuse]

Wasn’t Denver a young team?

Tiffany had UVa back to the final four in a short time. Just saying

And a first year coach who has fire.

 

[ForCuseSake]

Wasn’t Denver a young team?

Tiffany had UVa back to the final four in a short time. Just saying

Denver’s key players were seniors or super seniors.

Outside of the local kid, sophomore Dan Anderson, who was a monster today.

 

[23Zone]

Gait is horrible coach, doesn't do anything at all once the game starts, total sham. Reminds me of football coach (the fonz) in Waterboy lol

 

[CrazyPeople]

Trending in the right direction. I think he hires good assistants and lets them coach which is what good CEOs do (and occasionally provide input). I do think both March and Odierno have to step up next year. Also, a lot depends on the incoming recruits and who SU gets off the portal. As others have said, we need a rocket-fast dodger - Bucktooth?

Bucktooth will in all likelihood be the slowest player on the team next year. He is not his father type player

 

[knicks07]

Gait is horrible coach, doesn't do anything at all once the game starts, total sham. Reminds me of football coach (the fonz) in Waterboy lol

Agreed. Not impressed. Denver obviously made some halftime adjustments and SU did not. 3rd Q the difference

 

[CU44SE]

Trending in the right direction. I think he hires good assistants and lets them coach which is what good CEOs do (and occasionally provide input). I do think both March and Odierno have to step up next year. Also, a lot depends on the incoming recruits and who SU gets off the portal. As others have said, we need a rocket-fast dodger - Bucktooth?

Not sure if it was you who said this in reply to my comment in the gameday thread. But I strongly disagree with this thought process.

This is sports, when my team is hiring a coach I always want a strong X and O guy. Because that way you know you will always have a strong unit that the head coach knows inside and out. So you never have to worry about that side of the ball. I was very disappointed in Gait when there was 1:30 left in the game during a timeout and he was just walking around. He wasn’t involved with the play calling or any fire up speech to light a fire under the guys.

At this juncture, I can only assume that Gait is just a big time recruiter. Because he wasn’t involved in any planning and he clearly doesn’t teach fundamentals in practice because they are lacking. The team didn’t fight for 50/50 balls, and had way too many lapses in judgement that led to silly and preventable turnovers. The way we played today, we are getting by on talent and talent alone. We looked clueless on offense and slept walked for 3/4 of the game. The team didn’t look ready to play.

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

Not sure if it was you who said this in reply to my comment in the gameday thread. But I strongly disagree with this thought process.

This is sports, when my team is hiring a coach I always want a strong X and O guy. Because that way you know you will always have a strong unit that the head coach knows inside and out. So you never have to worry about that side of the ball. I was very disappointed in Gait when there was 1:30 left in the game during a timeout and he was just walking around. He wasn’t involved with the play calling or any fire up speech to light a fire under the guys.

At this juncture, I can only assume that Gait is just a big time recruiter. Because he wasn’t involved in any planning and he clearly doesn’t teach fundamentals in practice because they are lacking. The team didn’t fight for 50/50 balls, and had way too many lapses in judgement that led to silly and preventable turnovers. The way we played today, we are getting by on talent and talent alone. We looked clueless on offense and slept walked for 3/4 of the game. The team didn’t look ready to play.

I'm not around the Program, but I have to think this prevailing sentiment is a ridiculous premise that gets bandied about here because Gait doesnt go apoplectic the way Corrigan does (as if that's the reason ND is winning anyway).

The guy thinks enough about lacrosse to have a specific philosophy with respect to the types of pockets players should be playing with but he somehow isn't going to be involved in team strategy or coaching fundamentals? Good feckin lord.

 

[ClvrUsrnm]

I'm pretty sure that almost every D1 head coach was a former player at some point.

You know who never played lacrosse and did ok? Bill Tierney.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

You know who never played lacrosse and did ok? Bill Tierney.

Didn't Tierney play for Cortland in the 70's?

 

[im4cuse]

Not sure if it was you who said this in reply to my comment in the gameday thread. But I strongly disagree with this thought process.

This is sports, when my team is hiring a coach I always want a strong X and O guy. Because that way you know you will always have a strong unit that the head coach knows inside and out. So you never have to worry about that side of the ball. I was very disappointed in Gait when there was 1:30 left in the game during a timeout and he was just walking around. He wasn’t involved with the play calling or any fire up speech to light a fire under the guys.

At this juncture, I can only assume that Gait is just a big time recruiter. Because he wasn’t involved in any planning and he clearly doesn’t teach fundamentals in practice because they are lacking. The team didn’t fight for 50/50 balls, and had way too many lapses in judgement that led to silly and preventable turnovers. The way we played today, we are getting by on talent and talent alone. We looked clueless on offense and slept walked for 3/4 of the game. The team didn’t look ready to play.

Michael Jordan
Wayne Gretzky

Gary Gait

 

[ClvrUsrnm]

Didn't Tierney play for Cortland in the 70's?

Hmm, you appear to be correct. Could’ve sworn that in a thing on TV about him last year they said he never played. My bad.

 

[JeremyCuse]

4-10
8-7
12-6

1 tournament appearance
1 tournament win

Record wise it seems like they're trending in the right direction.

What do you folks think about his tenure so far?

Trending right direction as evidenced by 4-10 to a loss in the quarters in the Tourney. Did a nice job addressing concerns via the portal and recruiting has gone fairly well ( needs to go up another notch still).

That said there are some concerns.

He has a unique coaching style. ITs very end of the Desko era esque. He plays more of a CEO type which is fine but can rub people the wrong way especially when the wins aren't there.

Not issue with a HC being honest and saying hey " we lost because of XYX " but Desko never took personal responsibility for a loss and Gait seems to have doubled down on not taking responsibility when things go south. Not the biggest issue in the world but I always make me an uneasy when a coach never takes the blame.

Sometimes he makes weird statements. The whole comments before the ACC tourney and before the Denver game were odd and something he really should have kept to himself.

I don't love that 3 years in his teams while vastly improved overall still struggle with the same issues - Clearing against a tough ride and or a 10 man, undisciplined play for long stretches, no recognition on when the showtime plays need to be shelved (we didn't need a BTB pass down 3 late trying to get a goal) and at times turnovers.

Team is trending in the right direction and getting to the quarters was really the goal this season but id be lying if I said I didn't have some concerns about Gait's ability to lead this team to a title.

 

[CuseEagle8]

Not sure if it was you who said this in reply to my comment in the gameday thread. But I strongly disagree with this thought process.

This is sports, when my team is hiring a coach I always want a strong X and O guy. Because that way you know you will always have a strong unit that the head coach knows inside and out. So you never have to worry about that side of the ball. I was very disappointed in Gait when there was 1:30 left in the game during a timeout and he was just walking around. He wasn’t involved with the play calling or any fire up speech to light a fire under the guys.

At this juncture, I can only assume that Gait is just a big time recruiter. Because he wasn’t involved in any planning and he clearly doesn’t teach fundamentals in practice because they are lacking. The team didn’t fight for 50/50 balls, and had way too many lapses in judgement that led to silly and preventable turnovers. The way we played today, we are getting by on talent and talent alone. We looked clueless on offense and slept walked for 3/4 of the game. The team didn’t look ready to play.

I actually thought Gait did the right thing during that timeout with 1:30 left. It appeared to me he was in the offensive huddle. Obviously agreed and had nothing more to add to what March had to say. Then walked over to the defensive huddle since no matter what happened the defense would need to be prepared. Made sense to me. I too sometimes wonder exactly what Gait does but I don’t see why head coach/CEO/ head recruiter Gait can’t work out if his coordinators are up the the task, which I think they are.