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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4602824, member: 237"] One thing about Payne is that he wasn't a high IQ player and to go with he really hasn't coached under a good x's and o's coach unless you count his short stint in the NBA. Kent at Oregon basically had one good year and then Cal was a put talent on the floor and play hard kind of guy. If the kids are good enough they win. If they need good coaching- well not so great. Obviously a dynamite recruiter. Remains to be seen but I would trust a guy under JB who also has his own original ideas than someone like Payne given his stops. Obviously I know Louisville was just a reference but I am optimistic he can get it done as a coach. [/QUOTE]