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Message: [QUOTE="JeremyCuse, post: 175665, member: 43"] I think those two options you outlined would be our best bet Jurrie. I talked with Mark yesterday and we have a couple irons in the fire. Dont know if we have enough pull to get grandfathered in but as you noted SU probably has no idea that tailgate goups even exist. I know a few of us are trying to reach out Chris and others in the Ath dept hoepfully we can get some answers/good news. [/QUOTE]