How does JB divide ACC Minutes?

[rstone7727]

Now we have the full roster and Tyler is on it, here's how I see ACC minutes being doled out this year. Feel free to make corrections or additions.

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[iommi]

Cooney will get some run at PG...so will Silent G. I think Patterson and Obokoh are odd men out in ACC and Okoboh could get a shirt. I think you are underestimating DC's minutes.

 

[General20]

I wont break it down minute by minute. Hopefully the guys at the end of the bench play a lot, because that means we will be blowing a lot of teams out.

But when it really matters in a close game, here is how the rotation will break down.

Keita will get a boat-load of minutes at center. Christmas and Coleman will battle it out for the rest of the minutes - winner plays a lot, loser does not play at all. Before Canada, my guess was Coleman would win this battle, now my guess is Christmas wins it, but this is a wide open contest that will not be fully settled until January. I will be upset if Obokoh does not redshirt.

Fair, Grant and Roberson will share all the forward minutes. All three will play important roles.

Ennis will play point until he collapses. The other 5 minutes or so will go to Gbinije.

Cooney will start at shooting guard. The rest of the two guard minutes should be the most interesting battle we have. The options are A) Gbinije fills in all the spare guard minutes both at the point and off-guard spot. B) Johnson gets the shooting guard minutes that Cooney does not. C) Patterson gets the shooting guard minutes Cooney does not. I put these in order of likelihood, but part of me would like to see Gbinije focus only on his role as back up point guard, while Johnson comes in and earns a lot of minutes as a shooting guard.

 

[iommi]

Great post, General. I agree but I'd be surprised and disappointed if Coleman doesn't earn about 12 minutes a game. Hopefully he breaks some of his bad habits on offense and learns to play bigger.

 

[tee1222]

Tough call on Keita vs DC2. On the one hand, I'm hopeful about DC2 as iommi. Still, Keita has proven to be our best defensive center in key situations (did it in the tourney, even showed us this as far back as freshman year). And I think that more than anything, because we have been defensive minded lately, the 5 in our system is a must to be the defensive backbone of this team.

And SilentG vs Cooney is something that I'm not sure is fully decided yet. And maybe Roberson + a couple of minutes (16-18, dropping a little of Grant and CJ's minutes). I don't know though. I wouldn't want any less than 32 out of CJ. Just too valuable this year.
But otherwise, I think OP probably has it very close.

 

[stuckinbig11]

I sure hope that Coleman proves worthy of more minutes.

 

[Cusefaninvirginia]

The OP's numbers look good. I'd change a couple around a little bit. I see Christmas getting less than 6 mpg at PF. He'll probably still start, but only play briefly there, and will sub in at center the rest of the game. I think Coleman will likely get a few more minutes than that since I think JB is going to try to give him as much time as possible there to keep working on his defensive game. His low post scoring is so valuable JB's going to give him every chance in the world there. For BJ Johnson, did you mean SF/SG? I'd be surprised to see him playing at all at the point. But since JB's going to want to give as many minutes to our 3 main forwards, I think BJ's playing time is going to be limited to backing up at the 2 (at least during close and/or meaningful games). He might get as many as 10 mpg if he's shooting the 3 well, and if Cooney is struggling with the 3, but otherwise I think 5 or 6 mpg is more likely. (Though I hope I'm wrong on that - would love to see BJ elevate his game to the point where he's demanding real playing time at SG, regardless of how good Cooney and Silent G look there!

 

[dasher]

Now we have the full roster and Tyler is on it, here's how I see ACC minutes being doled out this year. Feel free to make corrections or additions.

Looks like we can copy/paste Excel data now, nice... Did I forget anyone?

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silent g will get a lot more minutes than that

 

[rstone7727]

For BJ Johnson, did you mean SF/SG? I'd be surprised to see him playing at all at the point.

No, I did mean PG.. After watching all three games in Canada, I had a hard time visualizing anyone on our team as a PG other than Tyler Ennis. I did notice BJ seems to be able to pass the ball and has a pretty good handle. I know the height doesn't translate to a PG but he shows great confidence in his game so I think he will prove to be the backup PG by the time ACC games roll in.. Not to compare him with another Johnson that went to Mich St, but he was about the same size.

 

[rrlbees]

Center - 40 mins
Rak 15
Keita 15
Coleman 10

PF/SF - 80 mins
Fair 35
Grant 25
Roberson 20

SG - 40 mins
Cooney 25
G 10
BJ 5

PG 40 mins
Ennis 35
G 5


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[TerryM]

Let's hope Ennis does not collapse

 

[Madbiker]

Let's hope Ennis does not collapse

Same basic minutes that MCW played last year. He survived and thrived.

 

[OrangeDW]

Center - 40 mins
Rak 15
Keita 15
Coleman 10

PF/SF - 80 mins
Fair 35
Grant 25
Roberson 20

SG - 40 mins
Cooney 25
G 10
BJ 5

PG 40 mins
Ennis 35
G 5


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I see it the same way, except I can't see Grant getting only 25 mpg. I think he will be our 2nd best player.

It's hard to see Roberson playing so much at a spot that our likely two best players play. Then again I haven't even seen Roberson play so if he's that good, they've gotta find him a role.

 

[rrlbees]

I see it the same way, except I can't see Grant getting only 25 mpg. I think he will be our 2nd best player.

It's hard to see Roberson playing so much at a spot that our likely two best players play. Then again I haven't even seen Roberson play so if he's that good, they've gotta find him a role.

Against certain teams I wouldn't be surprised to see us play small for 5 mins with Grant at the 5, Roberson the 4 and Fair the 3.


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[tee1222]

Against certain teams I wouldn't be surprised to see us play small for 5 mins with Grant at the 5, Roberson the 4 and Fair the 3.


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What's scary about that is although no true center on the floor, still probably taller and more wingspan than 95% of D1 front courts.

 

[reedny]

Now we have the full roster and Tyler is on it, here's how I see ACC minutes being doled out this year. Feel free to make corrections or additions.

Looks like we can copy/paste Excel data now, nice... Did I forget anyone?

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SG is unsettled, and I mostly agree with General (except I think MG will primarily back up the point).

Fair at PF and Grant at SF? I'd flip-flop this, but either way, I agree that TR is going to play 10-15 mpg minutes in the forward rotation (I have him at 14 mpg below, which is a boatload for a JB-coached frosh).

Christmas/Keita/Coleman ... lots of depth, experience and athleticism ... and hopefully more offense. And CJ/Grant/Roberson (and a little Rak) at the forward spots ... holy crap. I'd like to get a little more low-block scoring, but it could be one of our deepest front lines since the 80's. And I project that, even though we loose CJ next year, the '14 frontline could be even deeper.

PG - Ennis/MG 32/8 PG
SG - Cooney/BJ/Patterson 20/16/4 (keep an eye on that rearview mirror, Trevor)
SF - CJ/TR 32/8
PF - Rak/Grant/TR 14/20/6
C - DC/Keita/Rak 10/20/10

 

[orangefan13]

I will bite for fun.

Ennis 32 mpg
Gbinije- 17 mpg (8 at point 9 at SG)
Cooney- 18 mpg
Fair 36 mpg 10-12 of them at SG on offense (switching with roberson grant on D, unless BJ gets some extra SG minutes)
Grant 32 mpg
Dajuan 16 mpg at center
Keita 18 mpg at center
Rak - 17 mpg 11 mpg at forward 6 at center(best used if CJ plays some 2 on offense).
Roberson/BJ- get the other 15 min. at swingforward/sg.(also more likely to get more minutes as season goes on).

9-9.5 deep depending if roberson is a full man. BJ being the point 5 man.
more likely to sneak in - Paterson. although I wouldn't be suprised to see Obokoh not redshirt.


edit:Gbinije fixed.

 

[rrlbees]

Gbinije- 17 mpg (8 at point 7 at SG).

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[orangefan13]

Against certain teams I wouldn't be surprised to see us play small for 5 mins with Grant at the 5, Roberson the 4 and Fair the 3.


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I like your thinking Bees, no center is stopping Grants drive to rim. He just needs to hit those 8-10 foot jumpers. And the transition in that lineup adding Ennis is just rediculous.

 

[Chosen0ne]

Center - 40 mins
Rak 15
Keita 15
Coleman 10

PF/SF - 80 mins
Fair 35
Grant 25
Roberson 20

SG - 40 mins
Cooney 25
G 10
BJ 5

PG 40 mins
Ennis 35
G 5


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Co-sign on this prediction. I think the Center position will be interesting because those will be the averages, but I am guessing there will be a lot of swings between who takes the bulk of the minutes from game-to-game.

 

[RandygoCuse]

Center
Coleman 12
Rak 15
Keita 13

Power Forward
Rak 15
Grant 10
Fair 10
Roberson 5

Small Forward
Fair 20
Grant 15
Roberson 5

Shooting Guard
Cooney 20
Gbinije 15
Johnson/Patterson 5

Point Guard
Ennis 35
Gbinije 5

 

[Sgt Cuse]

To the OP, I think Fair will have the most minutes, more than Ennis. JB will make it that way, primarily in the early schedule as we destroy teams. CJ being the senior will be the last to go out. JB will be positioning CJ with good stats in his attempt to do everything under his power to get CJ honors and to help him get to the next level. Tyler hasn't earned that privilege. Both players will play big minutes in important and/or close games.

Also count me among those who hope and think DC2 will get more than 8 mpg's. JB realizes DC2 is the hope for a post game, got to try very hard to develop a scoring center - what a luxury/advantage to have in this era's college game. It is an investment in the future.

 

[cuseattle]

Co-sign on this prediction. I think the Center position will be interesting because those will be the averages, but I am guessing there will be a lot of swings between who takes the bulk of the minutes from game-to-game.

I like that prediction also. With that much depth we should foul hard any opponent down low that doesn't hit 70% from the stripe. Bruise 'em and make 'em earn it!

 

[MCC]

Center
Coleman 12
Rak 15
Keita 13

Power Forward
Rak 15
Grant 10
Fair 10
Roberson 5

Small Forward
Fair 20
Grant 15
Roberson 5

Shooting Guard
Cooney 20
Gbinije 15
Johnson/Patterson 5

Point Guard
Ennis 35
Gbinije 5

Fair's playing north of 30 mins per game IMO. I understand the delta between your 30 and my guess of say... 34 isn't huge, but CJ's playing 33+ IMO based on JAB's use of seniors, especially when they're the leading scorer from the prior team

 

[RandygoCuse]

Fair's playing north of 30 mins per game IMO. I understand the delta between your 30 and my guess of say... 34 isn't huge, but CJ's playing 33+ IMO based on JAB's use of seniors, especially when they're the leading scorer from the prior team

Yeah, you are probably right...Give him another 3 or 4 of Roberson's at small forward and 1 or 2 of at powerf forward