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Message: [QUOTE="Zelda Zonk, post: 3750011, member: 966"] I’m talking about National Perception, and how the ‘legend’ fades pretty quickly. Talking about single championship basketball coaches, there‘s Gary Williams and Steve Fisher. In fewer years than JB. Neither are ‘legendary.’ As for the Bowden comp: [I]”During his time at Florida State, Bowden led FSU to an Associated Press and Coaches Poll [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Orange_Bowl']National Title[/URL] in [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Florida_State_Seminoles_football_team']1993[/URL] and a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series']BCS[/URL] [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Sugar_Bowl']National Championship[/URL] in [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Florida_State_Seminoles_football_team']1999[/URL], as well as twelve [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Coast_Conference']Atlantic Coast Conference[/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlantic_Coast_Conference_football_champions']championships[/URL] once FSU joined the conference in 1991. Bowden's Seminoles finished as an [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_Poll#College_football']AP top-5[/URL] team for 14 consecutive seasons, setting a record that doubled the closest program.”[/I] JB isn’t in that echelon. JB’s legacy is mostly longevity-related, which is why I cited Lenny Wilkins. The perceptions are different, depending on who you ask. For SU fans/upstaters/locals, he’s a legend. For the rest of the world, not so much. It also depends on personal criteria. Similar to the discussion about Who is “elite.” How many people are on your “elite” list? If your definition is lax, maybe your list is deep. If it’s tight and stringent, the list is shorter. Then, add in your personal ‘identity’ issues, and if you need to feel like you’re somehow connected to something “legendary.” The old “I was there” thing... [/QUOTE]

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