Hunt doing all the right things

[VaSaltine]

We've changed the rules.

Since recruits, players and their parents, friends & families read the board...we have to be nothing but fake positive all the time.

This is a Pro-Syracuse propaganda site.

I prefer this option as opposed to a con-Syracuse propaganda site. There is another site for those who prefer otherwise.

 

[KaiserUEO]

This has been Kaiser, ladies and gentlemen... Able to take anything and exaggerate it to its extreme. His ability to both build up and destroy straw-men is legendary.

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I said earlier I didn't know what to think. That I believe you can be skeptical and hope for the best. That's a fair take.

He was flat out awful last year. The end of year one looked like things were starting to click. Then the bottom fell out. I think it's fair to criticize and fair to wonder how much of that was Mc. . . . it.

Say what you want, no one is stopping you.

your re-education is complete.

that was not your original position.

 

[jekelish]

He's crazy to think he's not going to run a lot. It's one of his biggest strengths.

In fact, I'd say it's pretty easily his BIGGEST strength.

 

[TheCusian]

your re-education is complete.

that was not your original position.

You cannot read. That has been my position.

 

[KaiserUEO]

In fact, I'd say it's pretty easily his BIGGEST strength.

hell, it might be his ONLY strength.

 

[bcubs9497]

This has been Kaiser, ladies and gentlemen... Able to take anything and exaggerate it to its extreme. His ability to both build up and destroy straw-men is legendary.

Kaiser can't seem to distinguish between constructive criticism and bashing. It's got to be seriously emotionally taxing to be in his presence.

He was flat out awful last year. The end of year one looked like things were starting to click. Then the bottom fell out. I think it's fair to criticize and fair to wonder how much of that was Mc. . . . it.

Anyways, I agree with you.

 

[Finwad32]

I think you can expect some consistency out of Terrell. What I mean by that, is, I don't believe he'll blow the doors off this year. His production, IMO, will remain within a respectable amount of what we've seen in the past. That being said, I do believe we'll see some improvement. This because of both the schedule and maturity reasons.

If he stays healthy:
1) TD/Int. ratio will be positive, I'll go 15/12 with a ceiling of 20 TD's and 15 Int's.
2) Passing yards somewhere around 2,000, most likely under.
3) Completion % a tick over 60. Which in this offense will be significant because there wont be nearly as many bubbles to inflate that percentage. (180 pa/300 pc)
4) Around 150 Rushing Attempts for close to 700 yards (big number) and 8-10 TD's.
5) This would be a roughly 124.5 Rating, clearly attainable and a smidge above what he's been in the past.

For comparison sake his sophomore season:

11 Games started in a 13 game season.
Passing: 167/273 = 61.2% - 1,638 yards 10-TD/8-Int. Rating = 117.8
Rushing: 106 RA - 500 yards and 7 TD.

 

[SUbear]

I think you can expect some consistency out of Terrell. What I mean by that, is, I don't believe he'll blow the doors off this year. His production, IMO, will remain within a respectable amount of what we've seen in the past. That being said, I do believe we'll see some improvement. This because of both the schedule and maturity reasons.

If he stays healthy:
1) TD/Int. ratio will be positive, I'll go 15/12 with a ceiling of 20 TD's and 15 Int's.
2) Passing yards somewhere around 2,000, most likely under.
3) Completion % a tick over 60. Which in this offense will be significant because there wont be nearly as many bubbles to inflate that percentage. (180 pa/300 pc)
4) Around 150 Rushing Attempts for close to 700 yards (big number) and 8-10 TD's.
5) This would be a roughly 124.5 Rating, clearly attainable and a smidge above what he's been in the past.

For comparison sake his sophomore season:

11 Games started in a 13 game season.
Passing: 167/273 = 61.2% - 1,638 yards 10-TD/8-Int. Rating = 117.8
Rushing: 106 RA - 500 yards and 7 TD.

Hunt's big problems last year were a whack a mole offensive line, and an offense that was designed around ineffective bubble screens. He may not have been great at passing but he can be serviceable, given an offense that is not designed and play called by an idiot. I am praying for a stable OL more than I am worried about Hunt at QB? I believe we can get to a bowl eligible, if we can avoid too many injuries on that OL.

 

[Rocco]

I think you can expect some consistency out of Terrell. What I mean by that, is, I don't believe he'll blow the doors off this year. His production, IMO, will remain within a respectable amount of what we've seen in the past. That being said, I do believe we'll see some improvement. This because of both the schedule and maturity reasons.

If he stays healthy:
1) TD/Int. ratio will be positive, I'll go 15/12 with a ceiling of 20 TD's and 15 Int's.
2) Passing yards somewhere around 2,000, most likely under.
3) Completion % a tick over 60. Which in this offense will be significant because there wont be nearly as many bubbles to inflate that percentage. (180 pa/300 pc)
4) Around 150 Rushing Attempts for close to 700 yards (big number) and 8-10 TD's.
5) This would be a roughly 124.5 Rating, clearly attainable and a smidge above what he's been in the past.

For comparison sake his sophomore season:

11 Games started in a 13 game season.
Passing: 167/273 = 61.2% - 1,638 yards 10-TD/8-Int. Rating = 117.8
Rushing: 106 RA - 500 yards and 7 TD.

I agree with your sentiment on the consistency part; however, I will slightly increase all of the projected stat numbers except for the rushing number.

Hopefully neither of us are correct and he destroys these numbers.

 

[KaiserUEO]

I agree with your sentiment on the consistency part; however, I will slightly increase all of the projected stat numbers except for the rushing number.

Hopefully neither of us are correct and he destroys these numbers.

without a significant increase in those stat #s, we will be witness to a long year.

 

[Finwad32]

without a significant increase in those stat #s, we will be witness to a long year.

Not if the rushing game does what it's supposed to.

 

[Millhouse]

I think you can expect some consistency out of Terrell. What I mean by that, is, I don't believe he'll blow the doors off this year. His production, IMO, will remain within a respectable amount of what we've seen in the past. That being said, I do believe we'll see some improvement. This because of both the schedule and maturity reasons.

If he stays healthy:
1) TD/Int. ratio will be positive, I'll go 15/12 with a ceiling of 20 TD's and 15 Int's.
2) Passing yards somewhere around 2,000, most likely under.
3) Completion % a tick over 60. Which in this offense will be significant because there wont be nearly as many bubbles to inflate that percentage. (180 pa/300 pc)
4) Around 150 Rushing Attempts for close to 700 yards (big number) and 8-10 TD's.
5) This would be a roughly 124.5 Rating, clearly attainable and a smidge above what he's been in the past.

For comparison sake his sophomore season:

11 Games started in a 13 game season.
Passing: 167/273 = 61.2% - 1,638 yards 10-TD/8-Int. Rating = 117.8
Rushing: 106 RA - 500 yards and 7 TD.

i don't think that's clearly attainable for him but I would take it if it comes with his usual rushing numbers.

going from 115 to 125 rating is like moving from 95th in the country to 67th. not an insignificant jump.

i think it's maybe 50/50

 

[SUFan44]

i don't think that's clearly attainable for him but I would take it if it comes with his usual rushing numbers.

going from 115 to 125 rating is like moving from 95th in the country to 67th. not an insignificant jump.

i think it's maybe 50/50

How many guys jump from 95th to 67 from SO to SR year? I would guess that a significant number of QBs do.

If he can throw for 2,000 yards, 15 TDs and run for 7-10 more, I think we make a bowl. And I think that's a pretty realistic expectation based on a typical career progression.

 

[Millhouse]

How many guys jump from 95th to 67 from SO to SR year? I would guess that a significant number of QBs do.

If he can throw for 2,000 yards, 15 TDs and run for 7-10 more, I think we make a bowl. And I think that's a pretty realistic expectation based on a typical career progression.

he did play some last year, whatever benefit he got from all that practice and learning should've shown up in the limited action from last year

i think his rating was knocked way down by all the idiotic bubble screens. i don't think he was actually as bad as his numbers. not his fault that mcf***it didn't understand that the bubble screen should be an option type of play. revising my coinflip up to, let's say 66.6% (repeating of course - leeeeeroy jenkins reference for anyone who is confused, look it up, you'll love it)

 

[GoSU96]

2600, 18 and 9, another 400 rushing, 6 TD's.

 

[RF2044]

2600, 18 and 9, another 400 rushing, 6 TD's.

Sign me up.

 

[GoSU96]

Sign me up.

that's not great for a 5th year senior, 3rd year starting QB.

 

[jekelish]

that's not great for a 5th year senior, 3rd year starting QB.

It's almost on par with McNabb's season as a 5th year senior, 4th year starting QB (2134, 22 TD, 5 INT, 438 rushing yards, 8 rushing TD). And passing wise, nearly identical to Nassib's junior year (2685, 22 TD, 9 INT).

 

[MSOrange]

he did play some last year, whatever benefit he got from all that practice and learning should've shown up in the limited action from last year

i think his rating was knocked way down by all the idiotic bubble screens. i don't think he was actually as bad as his numbers. not his fault that mcf***it didn't understand that the bubble screen should be an option type of play. revising my coinflip up to, let's say 66.6% (repeating of course - leeeeeroy jenkins reference for anyone who is confused, look it up, you'll love it)

I'll be the first to admit I know jack squat about X's and O's but even I could tell the bubble screen was coming after a certain point last year.

 

[Scooch]

that's not great for a 5th year senior, 3rd year starting QB.

It's nearly historic at SU, though. And would probably be the best season, statistically, at SU aside from Nassib's senior year since McNabb.

My God, we just never friggin' pass, do we?

 

[Millhouse]

It's almost on par with McNabb's season as a 5th year senior, 4th year starting QB (2134, 22 TD, 5 INT, 438 rushing yards, 8 rushing TD). And passing wise, nearly identical to Nassib's junior year (2685, 22 TD, 9 INT).

goes to show you have to do per attempt type numbers to compare this stuff.

mcnabb 98 =9.4 adj yards/attempt
nassib 11 = 6.6

42% difference

nassib 12 = 8.1

mcnabb still 12% better

 

[GoSU96]

It's nearly historic at SU, though. And would probably be the best season, statistically, at SU aside from Nassib's senior year since McNabb.

My God, we just never friggin' pass, do we?

It's 400 more passing yds than last year, 240 more than the year before, 1100 less than 2012, 130 less than 2011, 225 more than 2010, 150 more than 2009, 1100 more than 2008.

Not really that big a stretch from recent history.

 

[Millhouse]

mcnabb 19th career adj yards per attempt since 1956

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/adj-pass-yds-per-att-player-career.html

so great.

graves 123rd

tim lester 249. no other syracuse guy in the top 250

 

[SUFan44]

that's not great for a 5th year senior, 3rd year starting QB.

If we get 2,600 yards, 18 TDs, 9 INTs, 400 rushing yards and 6 TDs, I'll be extremely excited.

mcnabb 19th career adj yards per attempt since 1956

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/adj-pass-yds-per-att-player-career.html

so great.

graves 123rd

tim lester 249. no other syracuse guy in the top 250

12 of the top 20 in the last 7 years... and yet the only two guys from Syracuse on the list of top 250 (!) are from 15-20+ years ago. Incredible how much worse our offense looks the further your dig.

 

[RF2044]

that's not great for a 5th year senior, 3rd year starting QB.

I couldn't care less about how the year statically measures up. I'm much more interested in getting 216 ypg passing [way too low, but better than what we inconsistently had last year], 2-1 TD to INT ratio, and tacking on 8 more rushing TDs to go along with 400 more rushing yards.

How many TDs did we score again as a team last year?

Again, I'm not suggesting that those would be superior numbers, but after the futility we were subjected to last year, if I could sign on the dotted line right now to ensure that Hunt would pass for 216 yards per game and produce the rest of those scoring totals -- sign me up for those 24 TDs.

Obviously, hope Hunt is capable of doing more. But we KNOW that he is capable of doing less, and not producing at that level.