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[QUOTE="Ward, post: 2290668, member: 1958"]
I would take Cal and enjoy the success and excitement of competing for a championship each year then watch our guys become NBA all stars while they routinely come back to campus to support the program. That sounds like a lot of fun.

We've been hit with serious sanctions twice in the last ~20 years. The "we're a clean program" ship has sailed and is long gone but the orange colored glasses don't let many here admit it. The Bilas's Vitale's, etc. all say we were hit way too hard with our punishments, and I agree, but that isn't the same as them saying we're a clean program.

We have people here who will say it's complete BS Cal wasn't aware of a third party forging Rose's standardized test scores while he was in high school and not even on campus and then turn around and say they believe JB didn't know a member of his own staff a couple doors down the hall from him was manipulating current players school work. For the record, I think both obviously knew and probably know a lot more and the same could be said for 99% of college coaches.
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