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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 3513759, member: 668"] I agree with your sentiment. The challenges are real & in some instances significant. But I look at what Marrone was able to accomplish after the program fell into the abyss (Grob era), combined with the years of lacked commitment from the University into the football program. The ACC gift of a lifetime and winfall that graced the university changed that, as SU afterwards has at least spent some coin to compete at the P5 level. I can only imagine what Marrone might have been able to do with SU's commitment, as when he was there things that he knew SU significantly lacked and stressed to the administration was needed to compete was "someday" even with someday being a day late and a dollar short. I'm a Dino fan relative to his good impression, etc. and as an ambassador for SU. However, I'm not so much when it comes to results on the field, with 3 out of 4 losing seasons and year 5 seemingly looking like another losing one. At the end of the day, he was hired and is paid very handsomely to win football games...period! I don't get the [I]'if Dino can't do it then no one can sentiment.' [/I] It's not as if he is some long time established head coach with a consistently long track record of winning. His first gig was at Eastern Illinois (clearly turning around that program) on the coat tails of a high level NFL qb. He then left for Bowling Green, where he simply maintained the status quo of what was built by the current Wake Forest coach in Claussen the two years in which he was there. Babers only had 4 years of head coaching experience prior to taking on the SU job. Therefore, in year 5, his time as head coach at Syracuse is greater than the totality of his prior head coaching experience...at nearly 60 years of age. I really want Dino to win as I think stability matters (I know this all too well as a die hard Browns fan where the Browns have had anything but stability in the past 2 decades as well) but in my opinion, the jury clearly is still out, especially with his lack of any long track record of success as a head coach. If Dino continues to fail, then I don't think that just because he didn't succeed here SU might as well just fold up their tent and forget about it...being deemed a lost cause. [/QUOTE]

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