I have lived here (DC) for 35 years since leaving SU. It's true that some old alums (over 60 by now) don't approve of Hoya paranoia. For example, I worked on the Hill with a guy who played hoop pre JT and whose rebounding marks were broken by Craig Shelton. He hated JT because, among other reasons, he wanted nothing to do with their alumni. But make no mistake, current Hoya students and recent grads (since JT era) are almost uniformly . Many with severe inferiority complexes resulting from their Ivy rejections, from which they've never appropriately recovered. And they DO care about hoop. Which makes them all the more insufferable. My son, now at SU (playing club hockey BTW like SU2NASA) once attended a summer academic program for rising HS juniors at Gtown, while a student at Gonzaga in DC. Kids from all over the country attended. At the orientation, some administrator makes the school pitch to the kids, noting that "once a Hoya, always a Hoya". I made immediate eye contact with my son, who was wearing a hand-me-down "Cuse is in the House oh my God" t-shirt at the time. He shook is head no. We laughed. He wore a different SU t-shirt every day to class that summer -- hoop, LAX, everything -- and talked smack with teachers for 2 months. Folks on this board won't care, but I loathe them for another reason: their suppression, even hostility toward their Catholic identity. I am a traditional Catholic (my daughter graduated from Visitation next door to GU) and have always resented how they are ashamed to be Catholic (covering religious symbols when Obama or Clinton -- an alum-- came to speak). There is NO ONE on this board who hates everything they represent more than me. And while I know there's sentiment to continue to play them, I say let's win Sat and then say you know what ...