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Message: [QUOTE="Hoo's That, post: 1807012, member: 3609"] One thing to keep in mind in the discussion, the Ivies and the Patriot League do not allow 5th year players, even if you lose a year for injury. I think it's a 2-way street. If a player thinks he's going to get reasonable PT, he's not going to go through the PITA to transfer. Most coaches wouldn't have people red-shirt if they didn't think they'd be using them in their 4th year of playing. Situations change. I have no problems with transfers since the player has to have his degree in hand to be eligible to do it. [/QUOTE]