I think a lot of people not reading this board think the Uni was involved in a coverup

[orangefan13]

Grant just did a interview. He and his dad are all orange.
DC is from Syracuse. Not worried about that.

 

[orange79]

Are you sure about this? I thought they were binding so a coach couldn't take players with him...

You sign an LOI with the school, not the coach. I believe it has been talked about for years allowing kids to renege on their LOI if the coach leaves, but I don't think any action has been taken. Of course, a school can always release a kid, but that is the school's choice, not the signee.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

The last person in the world I would suspect of directing a coverup of a child abuse scandal in a university athletics department would be Nancy Cantor. She is far from the jock sniffer that Graham Spanier is. I no longer believe that anything is exactly the way it appears but this would rank up there with the greatest shockers of all time.

 

[AZOrange]

The worst part of our story is how confusing all the facts and details are. I mean everyone I talk to cannot keep it straight.

 

[rstone7727]

Are you sure about this? I thought they were binding so a coach couldn't take players with him...

You are correct:
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/85bbf0004e0dc6ec94fef41ad6fc8b25/NLI Guide 2011-12.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=85bbf0004e0dc6ec94fef41ad6fc8b25

 

[Millhouse]

This is just speculation, but the BS&K investigation, once it's released to the public, could be the wild card here. BS&K, in this instance, given that they are/were paid by SU, might end up being viewed in the same light as Fitch, Moody's, S&P, etc. that rated the SIVs, CDOs, et al AAA to hold on to their clients who had put that worthless junk together and sold them to unsuspecting pension funds and other investors: keeping their clients happy, thus insuring the fat fees kept coming, was more important than telling the unvarnished truth. If so, BS&K and SU will take the hard fall.

Time will tell.

banks want their new financial instruments rated all the time. colleges don't want to be investigated all the time.

the only way the fat fees keep coming is if we keep needing investigating.

you're reaching

 

[stuckinbig11]

Just spoke with a smart guy here at work. I talked about the past investigations, and his response was that the university still could have been involved in a cover up.

If smart people think that, then what does everyone else think?

I really believe JB needs to be front and center today on a number of high profile shows. His side of the story is not getting out there.

Based on what everyone else seems to believe, I'm not suprised they're calling for his head.

Based on what I believe is the actual story, I think firing him for this would be absurd.

JB is the only one who can turn this tide, he's gotta get out there.

If Cantor tells JB that his job is safe, as long as he is not culpable and he avoids potentially embarrassing media interviews, he should keep quiet. The most dangerous thing for him to do would be go on TV and make and off-the-cuff remark that could be taken differently than intended.

 

[bevosu]

banks want their new financial instruments rated all the time. colleges don't want to be investigated all the time.

the only way the fat fees keep coming is if we keep needing investigating.

you're reaching

SU has a long standing relationship with BSK. Many more fees for things other than investigations.

I think history shows us that most organizations, public and private, have a CYA knee jerk policy when it comes to unpleasant events.

I'm hopeful that the University has been on the up and up, but I wouldn't be shocked if they tried to bury a little dirt. Disappointed but not shocked.

Less shocked if a cover up involved the DA or SPD.

 

[UelSU]

But there is nothing out there right now that suggests a cover-up on the University's part other than public opinion. It seems they performed due diligence in 2005 and have been forthcoming in the current investigation. They also acted quickly with respect to BF, first putting him on administrative leave and then firing hi.

Didn't I read that SU turned over their investigation to the DA on the 18th...or do people feel SU did not give up everything?

 

[bevosu]

Turning the investigation report over to the DA or the SPD probably would not eliminate the suspicion that because of the university's ties to the community those agencies might not want to pursue the matter as aggressively as a totally outside agency...the feds for instance.

Much like what many think about those happy valley law enforcement agencies in the PSU matter.

The national media in particular would probably cast a suspicious eye. They usually do.

 

[rstone7727]

Turning the investigation report over to the DA or the SPD probably would not eliminate the suspicion that because of the university's ties to the community those agencies might not want to pursue the matter as aggressively as a totally outside agency...the feds for instance.

I thought that was the reason for the Feds taking over? Maybe I'm wrong, not in Syracuse, but are the DA and the SPD still doing official investigations. Thought the Feds were doing it all.

 

[bevosu]

I could be wrong, my brain is turning into mashed potatoes at this point with all the possibilities that are being thrown around...but I think November 17/18 was before the feds officially got involved.