If I was HCSS...

[orlandoorange]

I'd tell my guys to politely say "no comment" to anyone from the post standard. I won't post the link to Cohen's latest hatchet job on Allen, but I am amazed at this line...

He fidgeted with the bottle of baby blue Gatorade in his hands, and his first few answers to questions were short, terse jabs that reflected his displeasure both with his play and the line of questioning.

These are college aged kids, what kind of reaction does he expect from him? They are not professional athletes, if you want to write about those fellows, improve your writing skills and get a job in a larger market.

I wouldn't be surprised to see HCSS do a Gundy at some point this season.

 

[Millhouse]

I'd tell my guys to politely say "no comment" to anyone from the post standard. I won't post the link to Cohen's latest hatchet job on Allen, but I am amazed at this line...

He fidgeted with the bottle of baby blue Gatorade in his hands, and his first few answers to questions were short, terse jabs that reflected his displeasure both with his play and the line of questioning.

These are college aged kids, what kind of reaction does he expect from him? They are not professional athletes, if you want to write about those fellows, improve your writing skills and get a job in a larger market.

I wouldn't be surprised to see HCSS do a Gundy at some point this season.

no one cares about the shade of blue of the gatorade

print the answers to the questions and let me judge if they're short and terse

stop reading his mind about what those short terse jabs mean

maybe they just mean that he doesn't like you

no more links, no more interviews, just shut them down. it's not like the paper is of any use to them as it is

 

[k cuse]

I think the blue gatorade comment was an attempt to emulate something Bud P would write. I posted it earlier I think Cohen truly dislikes Allen and is happy to see him on the bench.

 

[OrangeMojo]

I think the blue gatorade comment was an attempt to emulate something Bud P would write. I posted it earlier I think Cohen truly dislikes Allen and is happy to see him on the bench.

this is just his "style" of writing - it's no different from the nonsense he put out there from ACC media days about Coach Shafer - I think he actually thinks this is some really impressive reporting when he includes this kind of nonsense in 'articles' that he puts out there

 

[sandman525]

One of my biggest pet peeves is when sports reporters attempt to get inside the heads of the athletes they cover. How could Cohen possibly know whether Allen is frustrated with his play or the line of questioning unless he asked him? And who cares what flavor of Gatorade Allen was drinking? Unfortunately, this is the type of drivel we have come to expect from the Substandard.

 

[cuseinchina]

my post from the comment section below the article is pasted below. Probably does nothing and I know it generates another hit for them when I open the article - but the kid truly is throwing away his career and is too eager/uninformed to figure it out. I almost feel bad for him...
your style of writing makes it seem that you are not a nice person, either that or you are just totally tone deaf (which is not a good take for a writer). I'm going to assume the latter. This stuff is so negative. And then you guess at what he must be thinking/feeling to make him twitch his Gatorade bottle around - maybe he was just restraining himself from punching you in the face for being a sarcastic little twerp playing at 'newspaper man'.

I understand that you have to write a lot of articles, more than what you would be doing at a normal print-centric publication. But you need to think a little bit about what you are writing. Ask yourself after every draft - is there too much opinion in this? Did I at least quote a couple of sources? Is this detrimental to my ability to cover the football team on an ongoing basis? Do I sound like a complete jerk in this? Will writing like this get me to the times - or will it land me in the dustbin of has-been sports bloggers?

Your editors do you a dis-service - they are getting you to trade your long-term career interests for their short-term experiment. Once you lose the ability to cover the football team (which seems likely given that no one is likely to want to talk to you given your nasty tone) you will no longer be of value to the post standard. Trying to go somewhere else it will be clear looking at your body of work that you are a liability. Your remaining options will be -low rent existing sports blog, or start your own sports blog. Seriously, you aren't a bad writer it's just that your tone and style will make you unpublishable - be your own editor!! run work by trusted professors or mentors before you submit to your editor. Look to find models of people doing this the right way and try to emulate them. Wishing you luck in figuring it out.

 

[SmilinBob]

Maybe Allen was nervous because Cohen was looking between his legs at the bottle?

 

[orange79]

Your editors do you a dis-service -

This is a big part of the problem - I don't think there are any editors.

 

[FAL]

My two cents worth:

 

[Chip]

no one cares about the shade of blue of the gatorade

print the answers to the questions and let me judge if they're short and terse

stop reading his mind about what those short terse jabs mean

maybe they just mean that he doesn't like you

no more links, no more interviews, just shut them down. it's not like the paper is of any use to them as it is

People often say it's not the newspaper's job to promote the program and technically they're right. But the program and the PS could have a mutually beneficial relationship. PS, as currently constructed, appears to have no interest in that. It's more of a tabloid approach. So yeah, if you're in charge of the SU football program, what do you lose by cutting off, or limiting their access?


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[cuseinchina]

This is a big part of the problem - I don't think there are any editors.

there seems to be one guy in charge of the sports writing/blogging - forget his name - who occasionally posts some annoying stuff himself. Clearly there is no sort of mentorship or guidance. This is just an experiment being conducted by a large corporation in one of their smaller less important markets by hiring the cheapest people possible and hoping for the best. In the mean time Cohen ruins his potential career and we get coverage that is detrimental to recruiting, attendance, and whatever else.

 

[SWC75]

If you were HCSS, it would be a big surprise to Mrs. HCSS.

 

[Millhouse]

People often say it's not the newspaper's job to promote the program and technically they're right. But the program and the PS could have a mutually beneficial relationship. PS, as currently constructed, appears to have no interest in that. It's more of a tabloid approach. So yeah, if you're in charge of the SU football program, what do you lose by cutting off, or limiting their access?


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it's basically bleacher report

bleacher report bleacher report bleacherreport we're done with our mission octonauts at east until the next adventure

 

[orlandoorange]

If you were HCSS, it would be a big surprise to Mrs. HCSS.

and I can assure you, not a very pleasant one for her

 

[FAL]

there seems to be one guy in charge of the sports writing/blogging - forget his name - who occasionally posts some annoying stuff himself. Clearly there is no sort of mentorship or guidance. This is just an experiment being conducted by a large corporation in one of their smaller less important markets by hiring the cheapest people possible and hoping for the best. In the mean time Cohen ruins his potential career and we get coverage that is detrimental to recruiting, attendance, and whatever else.

Looks familiar:

 

[supp]

no one cares about the shade of blue of the gatorade

print the answers to the questions and let me judge if they're short and terse

stop reading his mind about what those short terse jabs mean

maybe they just mean that he doesn't like you

no more links, no more interviews, just shut them down. it's not like the paper is of any use to them as it is

This kind of dime store psychology is also super narcissistic. As someone else said, it's not unlike the Shafer story from the summer. He just has a habit of putting himself in the story. No one wants to know what you perceive to be going on your interviewee's mind. Why not ask him instead of trying to read his body language? This guy is a beat reporter for SU football but he's writing like he's Cameron Crowe at Rolling Stone. It might work in that publication but it doesn't work here.

 

[anomander]

I'd tell my guys to politely say "no comment" to anyone from the post standard. I won't post the link to Cohen's latest hatchet job on Allen, but I am amazed at this line...

He fidgeted with the bottle of baby blue Gatorade in his hands, and his first few answers to questions were short, terse jabs that reflected his displeasure both with his play and the line of questioning.

These are college aged kids, what kind of reaction does he expect from him? They are not professional athletes, if you want to write about those fellows, improve your writing skills and get a job in a larger market.

I wouldn't be surprised to see HCSS do a Gundy at some point this season.

I've heard that this has been addressed. It's tough to say no comment during a media session, but there has been steps taken when dealing with the PS (mostly Cohen though).

 

[Jake]

I wish Marrone was around this year if for no other reason than to see him deal with Cohen.


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[Rocco]

I wish Marrone was around this year if for no other reason than to see him deal with Cohen.


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Better yet, imagine if Cohen jumped to the basketball coverage and got to deal with Boeheim. What a privilege that would be for all of us.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Cohen plagerized Cohen. Check out his opening paragraph from this story he wrote for the DO. Looks awfully familiar to the story posted above. Hmmmmmmmmm.

http://dailyorange.com/2013/01/cohe...oals-at-syracuse-leaves-with-positive-legacy/

Doug Marrone sat beneath the grandstands of Memorial Stadium, a fresh bottle of red Gatorade open by his left hand. He looked exhausted. His shirt bore sweat marks. His normally commanding voice lacked its usual vigor.

 

[MadNY3]

If I am HCSS I don't shut him out. Instead, I'd have a candid, one-sided private meeting along the lines of:

"Michael, I respect you have a job to do and so do I. But when your job at times causes mine to be harder, no one wins. I'm no damn fool to think you are a cheerleader for the school, but at the same time, there is no need to be snarky when we're dealing with kids even younger than you. Yada Yada."

SS is a rookie head coach. Not good to start off so early with a no-communication stance with anyone let alone the main reporter covering the beat. It also doesn't mean he has to take a blind eye either.

 

[ImperialOrange]

Cohen plagerized Cohen.

I believe the term for that would be doucheption.

 

[sufandu]

He fidgeted with the bottle of baby blue Gatorade in his hands, and his first few answers to questions were short, terse jabs that reflected his displeasure both with his play and the line of questioning.

I remember as a senior in high school having to take a journalism class for a semester. My teacher would kill us for writing crap like this. It's not creative writing. It's journalism. Cohen, stop auditioning for Bud's job.

 

[anomander]

If I am HCSS I don't shut him out. Instead, I'd have a candid, one-sided private meeting along the lines of:

"Michael, I respect you have a job to do and so do I. But when your job at times causes mine to be harder, no one wins. I'm no damn fool to think you are a cheerleader for the school, but at the same time, there is no need to be snarky when we're dealing with kids even younger than you. Yada Yada."

SS is a rookie head coach. Not good to start off so early with a no-communication stance with anyone let alone the main reporter covering the beat. It also doesn't mean he has to take a blind eye either.

it's not like Cohen was getting any access as it was. he will still get his media session questions in, and interviews once they are fully vetted.

 

[kcsu]

he is short in stature and stamina