If I were Autry

[Dcuse]

In the post game locker room……” If you guys want me to quit, just tell me. It’s obvious you’re not going hard for me.” So hard to watch a Syracuse team that doesn’t hustle back to stop fast breaks and gives next to nothing in the way of resistance on drives to the hoop. I feel for Adrian…..he has no gamers on this squad.

 

[rocfan44]

I don’t feel bad for him. These are his guys. What does it tell you if 9 games in they don’t want to play hard.

 

[Dcuse]

I don’t feel bad for him. These are his guys. What does it tell you if 9 games in they don’t want to play hard.

I know you don’t. What does that say about you?

 

[Cuse_NYC]

Coach them.

 

[jdubs30]

I found it interesting that the announcers said we kept harping on transition D during practice, but we continuously got beat.

After the mess with Q/Benny/Judah last year too.

You almost wonder if the players don’t respect Red.

Or he picks the wrong players

 

[rocfan44]

I know you don’t. What does that say about you?

Really, great response! It says that as a fan for over 40 years this is the most disappointing team ever.

 

[chuck]

In the post game locker room……” If you guys want me to quit, just tell me. It’s obvious you’re not going hard for me.” So hard to watch a Syracuse team that doesn’t hustle back to stop fast breaks and gives next to nothing in the way of resistance on drives to the hoop. I feel for Adrian…..he has no gamers on this squad.

Or him and griffin just aren't good coaches...is that even a consideration or do we owe red something that I'm missing besides money.

 

[Killdozer]

Red could have a team of all 5 stars and I still don't believe that they would be any good on defense. Autry has proven to me that he is just not a good head coach. He is totally lost on his decision making. Reminds me of Dino.

 

[tptcuse]

Red could have a team of all 5 stars and I still don't believe that they would be any good on defense. Autry has proven to me that he is just not a good head coach. He is totally lost on his decision making. Reminds me of Dino.

You might be right. We gave up 75 points to a mediocre Georgetown team and Red is out there saying how good the defense was.

 

[FrancoPizza]

” If you guys want me to quit, just tell me. It’s obvious you’re not going hard for me.”

What did the players say in response?

 

[Irt4su]

More open layups in a charity all star game. The defense is not a defense and the offense is offensive. The substitutions and lineups are without logic and the lack of in game decision making (such as using timeouts) is non existent.

Red is over his head. He needed (needs) an assistant who is constantly whispering not lap dogs. Phil Marteli or Seth Greenberg type of number 2. Even then I’m not sure he would adapt.

JB needs to have him over for dinner and watch the 9 games with him and go thru the games as a coach would, not a fan.

 

[PeteCalvin]

More open layups in a charity all star game. The defense is not a defense and the offense is offensive. The substitutions and lineups are without logic and the lack of in game decision making (such as using timeouts) is non existent.

Red is over his head. He needed (needs) an assistant who is constantly whispering not lap dogs. Phil Marteli or Seth Greenberg type of number 2. Even then I’m not sure he would adapt.

JB needs to have him over for dinner and watch the 9 games with him and go thru the games as a coach would, not a fan.

Do Red and JB actually talk about basketball anymore, or was JB specifically instructed to keep his distance?

Here’s the thing. Red had over a decade to soak up JB’s coaching acumen and game management, and clearly hasn’t. I don’t think weekly tape sessions are going to fix anything. Based on posts I’ve read on this and the recruiting forum over the last year (since I dusted off my profile for the Fran Brown football renaissance) it seems that Red and GMac had a different mindset than JB on who they should be recruiting and how the team should play. Sounds like they butted heads quite often. I don’t see Red having heart to hearts with JB at this point.

He needs to figure this out on his own. He clearly whiffed in the portal on the type of player he needed to succeed in his system. It seems he wants to play fast, but he went with a center short on athleticism and a PG who can’t see the floor. He wanted to improve rebounding and shooting, and struck out there too. Red put his faith in guys who are letting him down right now, not to mention each other. They need a collective look in the mirror session and decide who they want to be. Yes, we miss Starling, and we win ND and GTown with him in the lineup. No question. But the issue is deeper than missing JJ. These guys don’t know who should be taking shots in crunch time, they don’t value the ball, and they don’t have a leader on the floor. JJ was becoming the leader, that much was clear. Without him, we’re floundering. These guys need to go back to basics and understand and accept their roles, and that is key because we are a team of role players. There are no alphas.

Until these guys commit to one another, start playing as a team on D, and are determined to hustle every play and leave everything on the floor, they are in for a very long season.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

I know you don’t. What does that say about you?

That he understands how the real world works.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Really, great response! It says that as a fan for over 40 years this is the most disappointing team ever.

Aren’t we all lucky that this is the nadir of on court performance in the lifetimes of our fandom.

 

[bballbeadle]

Yes! There’s nowhere to go but up!

 

[Forza Azzurri]

In the post game locker room……” If you guys want me to quit, just tell me. It’s obvious you’re not going hard for me.” So hard to watch a Syracuse team that doesn’t hustle back to stop fast breaks and gives next to nothing in the way of resistance on drives to the hoop. I feel for Adrian…..he has no gamers on this squad.

Gave you a like just for the proper use of the subjunctive in the title.

 

[Dcuse]

Gave you a like just for the proper use of the subjunctive in the title.

I take my subjunctives very seriously.

 

[23Zone]

If I were Autry Id call GMAC and tell him they picked the wrong guy

 

[dasher]

I take my subjunctives very seriously.

I have always liked that about you

 

[STEVEHOLT]

I found it interesting that the announcers said we kept harping on transition D during practice, but we continuously got beat.

After the mess with Q/Benny/Judah last year too.

You almost wonder if the players don’t respect Red.

Or he picks the wrong players

As a rockets fan, this reminds me so much of when Silas was the coach and they players just didn’t even try to get back on D. He couldn’t make them care . udoka comes in and immediately they become a defensive force

 

[Sherman20]

Do Red and JB actually talk about basketball anymore, or was JB specifically instructed to keep his distance?

Here’s the thing. Red had over a decade to soak up JB’s coaching acumen and game management, and clearly hasn’t. I don’t think weekly tape sessions are going to fix anything. Based on posts I’ve read on this and the recruiting forum over the last year (since I dusted off my profile for the Fran Brown football renaissance) it seems that Red and GMac had a different mindset than JB on who they should be recruiting and how the team should play. Sounds like they butted heads quite often. I don’t see Red having heart to hearts with JB at this point.

He needs to figure this out on his own. He clearly whiffed in the portal on the type of player he needed to succeed in his system. It seems he wants to play fast, but he went with a center short on athleticism and a PG who can’t see the floor. He wanted to improve rebounding and shooting, and struck out there too. Red put his faith in guys who are letting him down right now, not to mention each other. They need a collective look in the mirror session and decide who they want to be. Yes, we miss Starling, and we win ND and GTown with him in the lineup. No question. But the issue is deeper than missing JJ. These guys don’t know who should be taking shots in crunch time, they don’t value the ball, and they don’t have a leader on the floor. JJ was becoming the leader, that much was clear. Without him, we’re floundering. These guys need to go back to basics and understand and accept their roles, and that is key because we are a team of role players. There are no alphas.

Until these guys commit to one another, start playing as a team on D, and are determined to hustle every play and leave everything on the floor, they are in for a very long season.

Red has done interviews where he says he talks to JB regularly. I imagine JB is somewhat judicious with his advice (despite his reputation), but with all this losing of late, maybe he’s speaking up more and trying to give some suggestions.

 

[Cusefan69]

If I were Autry Id call GMAC and tell him they picked the wrong guy

Ahh yes because GMac is the juggernaut coach down the road we all want. (No time for sarcasm font). Now if you said we picked from the wrong coaching tree you would probably get people agreeing. Let's all stop with the GMac stuff. Down the road if he shows his chops winning, recruiting, etc...then sure. Until then he is a hard pass at this point.

 

[23Zone]

Ahh yes because GMac is the juggernaut coach down the road we all want. (No time for sarcasm font). Now if you said we picked from the wrong coaching tree you would probably get people agreeing. Let's all stop with the GMac stuff. Down the road if he shows his chops winning, recruiting, etc...then sure. Until then he is a hard pass at this point.

You are missing my point entirely. My point was that between Red and GMAC, in my opinion, GMAC would have been the better choice. Boeheim knew it but Wildhack didn't care. Obviously with the current situation, GMAC would only now be an option down the road after he proves himself. But he is much more likely to prove himself than Red and his clown show.

 

[Cusefan69]

You are missing my point entirely. My point was that between Red and GMAC, in my opinion, GMAC would have been the better choice. Boeheim knew it but Wildhack didn't care. Obviously with the current situation, GMAC would only now be an option down the road after he proves himself. But he is much more likely to prove himself than Red and his clown show.

Nope I understood the point. That's why I referenced the coaching tree but I can see how that may have been confusing as worded. Hindsight 20/20...neither were ready for the gig.

 

[djcon57]

Nope I understood the point. That's why I referenced the coaching tree but I can see how that may have been confusing as worded. Hindsight 20/20...neither were ready for the gig.

Seriously, GMAC (whom I love as a Syracuse legend so no hate here) was so sought after, that he went to a program that won 4 games last year