If jb did fall from this, Cantor also has to go

[dash-30-dash]

B.S. the best bosses I have ever had were woman. So you are wrong there. The academic rating of the school has gone down since she arrived. If it went up, I would want her to get a bonus. Just so you can understand, she has done a much worse job then hackett. hackett took over a loser. We were ranked 40 when she got here and 62 this year. That isn't good. No way to spin that. Academic mags have written just this year about the Syracuse slide.

 

[Dick_in_MI]

B.S. the best bosses I have ever had were woman. So you are wrong there. The academic rating of the school has gone down since she arrived. If it went up, I would want her to get a bonus. Just so you can understand, she has done a much worse job then hackett. hackett took over a loser. We were ranked 40 when she got here and 62 this year. That isn't good. No way to spin that. Academic mags have written just this year about the Syracuse slide.

OK dash, but you seem to be tying it to JB and I think it's really apples and oranges

 

[NKR1978]

first, on the day when she took over, the school was ranked 40th in U.S. News and world report. We are ranked 62 now. She fired our football coach over the same type of decline. Second, the Fine mess happened on her watch. Whatever I can do to remove her, I will do.

SU's academic decline started under Buzz. Some of her decisions may have hastened that though and that's a fair point, but I believe SU peaked in 1998 or thereabouts and was dropping after that. I distinctly remember SU being in the low 50's in the early 2000's. I think more importantly is that SU has maintained its rankings in its core disciplines: Newhouse, Maxwell, Architecture and Information Sciences.

I'm shocked SU was able to maintain its AAU membership for as long as it did. SU is not a research institution, and that's fine. Boston College and Notre Dame aren't AAU members either, and they are excellent universities. I wish she would focus on the rankings more, there is no reason for SU to be tied with Clemson and that is a legitimate criticism.

 

[SUintheVille]

The economic standing of Syracuse has declined due to her?

I think the weather got worse too.

 

[bevosu]

I think the weather got worse too.

I know my love life has.

 

[dash-30-dash]

whose hasn't

 

[PhatOrange]

Who gives a flock about AAU or rankings. The women took away our nickname. I want the Orangemen restored.

 

[AZOrange]

I wish shaq would have dunked her.. THAT would have been a highlight. And im still shuttering from the view of her belly falling out of her sweater and her snorting like a pig when he lifted her up

I try to not comment on belly flab and pig snorts.

 

[OttoMets]

The community work is a big deal and I commend her for that. Didn't/isn't Yale go/going through something very similar and it turned out well? Very, and that's the model for this. What kid wants to go to a semi-selective, highly-expensive, average private university if that university is in a decaying Rust Belt town? There are too many Boston Colleges and George Washingtons out there competing for students. Chancy Nancy's way ahead of the game on this one.

Ranking is debatable. There is a ton of politics involved, after all. What really bothered me was losing AAU. And she blew it off like it was meaningless. Very disappointing considering she came from multiple B10 schools, where AAU is considered very important. All she had to do was maintain a bare minimum to stay AAU. It's very unlikely we will ever be able to get that back. She couldn't and we won't - SU hasn't got a medical school. The AAU made it very clear that member institutions without medical schools would not be members in coming years; rather than get expelled, SU opted for the preemptive break-up. And you can bet that she didn't find it meaningless, but it wouldn't do for the Chancellor to let fly with any "sky is falling" quotes about that - she's got to cast it in the most postivie light possible.

Agree with the general sentiment behind both points.

 

[NKR1978]

Who gives a flock about AAU or rankings. The women took away our nickname. I want the Orangemen restored.

That was Jake and Buzz. And they were also responsible for that God awful SJU logo. I get angry whenever I see someone wearing or displaying that logo.

 

[OttoMets]

That was Jake and Buzz. And they were also responsible for that God awful SJU logo. I get angry whenever I see someone wearing or displaying that logo.

Billy Edelin and the Brothers Wright would have all completed successful four-year careers and won another national title were it not for that logo.

That logo set the basketball program back five years.

 

[omniorange]

Re: Cantor - the drop in the US News Rankings is entirely on her. And I don't think she would deny that or run from that since, in her mind, she knows exactly what she is doing and what her endgame is. The same thing happened at University of Illinois as well for her short term there.

I'm not entirely confident her grand scheme will pay off in the end, but if things happen the way she thinks it will happen, don't be surprised if a decade or two from now SU is in the Top 25-35 range.

Cheers,
Neil