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[QUOTE="billsin01, post: 1073508, member: 837"]
Oh, I agree that defenses are more than simply effort but if you're a talented guy who is determined to play defense, you can do it regardless of your background. To me, guys like Hak and John Wallace struggled more because they lacked the footspeed and quickness at the next level. Even Melo to some degree isn't the raw explosive athlete as much as an absolute offensive machine, Imo.
 
But on offense I'd argue it's not so much the system (which I'd agree is not terribly sophisticated) as it is the structure of the program. Guys who come in and have internal drive and motivation tend to excel and improve. Kids like Rautins and Fair and Allen Griffen and Damone Brown and Arinze Onuaku seem to squeeze every ounce out of their talent. But then there are guys who either aren't told to make certain adjustments or simply don't do it. Rick Jackson didn't lose weight until he was a senior? Kris Joseph went four years and never bothered to develop any semblence of a back to the basket game? Rak is three years in and every bit as raw offensively as he was as a freshman?
 
I'm not trying to knock those guys individually, but if I were going to knock this program I'd argue that one big issue is the systematic development of players. Not that it's bad, but that there often tend to be huge gaps that come back to haunt us. Just my opinion.
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