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Message: [QUOTE="UnderHisOwnPower, post: 2023915, member: 1205"] I agree. Last years final 4 was awesome, of course. And using that criteria, and that criteria alone, the season was historic. But it also felt a bit like what could have been? If the team was able to put together a better regular season and earn a higher seed, then it is those type of seasons where Final 4 becomes the floor, not the ceiling, that you may only get with a 30 win team. I understand JBs presser points. For most fans, and certainly casual fans, a Final 4 is all that matters. But from a program perspective, if all of the pieces are falling into place, then 30 wins should occur on a semi regular basis, and if you can put yourself in that position, post seasons success will certainly follow. [/QUOTE]