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Message: [QUOTE="Shark58, post: 2023927, member: 4746"] obviously the 1st is a better team, but here's why the 2nd choice is correct. if you are talking about a single season, making the 4 is a bigger deal. as proof, off the top of you head tell me a few teams from the 90's and 00's that had surprising 30 win seasons. now name teams from the same era that made a surprising FF run. which list came quicker to you? if you are talking about year in, year out then the constant 30 win team that can't get past 16 is the most overrated, cream puff who folds under pressure with an over his head way overrated HC who can probably recruit (more program than him, payoffs, other internet fodder, etc.) but is terrible at X/O's and needs to be replaced by everyone (especially that winning turk at XU who keeps taking middling teams into the last weekend) at the end of the day, the first team underachieves while the 2nd becomes part of the fabric of history [/QUOTE]