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Message: [QUOTE="CuseFaninVT, post: 1332893, member: 2002"] We play 1s and 2s up here. Usually games are to 11 so it's okay, but I hear you on the value. But we are all really bad at doing math and keeping score at the same time, so it's better to keep it this way. There are a couple gyms up here where 4 on 4 are much better (the Burlington Y is the best example), but I hear you. I try to be the guy that runs all the time, but even I get worn out. And the nimrods who make this suggestion usually do so when we lose one or two guys from the original 5x5. I don't want to run 4s when I'm already tired. I love playing up here though. Everyone brings a dark shirt and a white shirt so none of us oldies have to run around in skins. And every place I play is two games and off. So much more fair and fun when you can get a consistent run and the one team with a ringer doesn't get to stay on all night. [/QUOTE]