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If you want anyone to show up, gotta make the change

Before the season started

Assumption was we would lose to Clem/Tenn/SMU and hope to beat Duke

3-3 was the goal to get to 6 wins.

Dont lose the QB and we might be 4-2

This is absolutely right
 
yea. how are you seeing wide open guys all over on the tv coverage. Unless you mean missing wide open guys on some throws

For sure missing WIllis and Gills on the 2 simple plays hurt us

Coaches see Carney every day. You really think if is making those throws in practice Fran doesnt pull the trigger today?
Because I’m using my eyes watching the broadcast. He had multiple deep throws he overthrew. He completed 50% against a terrible pass defense.
 
it would be great if Carney could make those plays. But hoping doesn't make it happen. Coaches have to see it. You act like coach is thinking I could put Carney in and win but I wont because NIL went to another player. Off the bye things may change as to how quick the hook is.
 
No.

If Carney was better why would he be 3rd string?

Sure Collins made some mistakes. but the running game is the issue not Collins
Not sure why people think Carney would do any better, based on information on this board, Carney played HS football in the Mecca of HS football, Texas , Texas has 6 P4 schools and I believe another 5-6 D1 schools, only UTSA and Rice offered him! I understand offers aren’t the end all, and I hope Carney has a great career at SU, but Fran would have him at the 2 behind Angeli if he was better than Rickey. It’s painful sometimes to watch players grow. The one issue I have with all of this is I wish Fran would take the points when he has the chance, Woody so far has proved reliable, and play field position, constantly going on 4th down is reckless, it can be exciting, but taking points and flipping field, especially with our D would be nice.
 
Before the season started

Assumption was we would lose to Clem/Tenn/SMU and hope to beat Duke

3-3 was the goal to get to 6 wins.

Dont lose the QB and we might be 4-2
Before the season we also thought Clemson was a national championship contender. And didn't know that SMU and Duke would have 2 losses already and statistically some of the worst defenses in the country. Preseason thinking goes out the window once the games are played. We put up a total of 2 garbage time TDs against 2 defenses that have been allowing 30 points a game
 
it would be great if Carney could make those plays. But hoping doesn't make it happen. Coaches have to see it. You act like coach is thinking I could put Carney in and win but I wont because NIL went to another player. Off the bye things may change as to how quick the hook is.

He doesn't need to make those plays. He just needs to manage the game and not eF up.
 
No.

If Carney was better why would he be 3rd string?

Sure Collins made some mistakes. but the running game is the issue not Collins
Collins is literally the reason the running game isn’t good.

No one fears him in the passing game. Stack the box. Take out the run. Make the one-look, back-up QB make plays.

And…he can’t.
 
Before the season started

Assumption was we would lose to Clem/Tenn/SMU and hope to beat Duke

3-3 was the goal to get to 6 wins.

Dont lose the QB and we might be 4-2
i don’t know who hoped to beat Duke they went 9-3 last year, returned a ton, and got the best portal QB in the country.
 
So most expected 2-4 after 6 games?

If we had a running game the Duke game stays withing reach much longer and we are probably even with SMU even with this level of QB play.
 
it would be great if Carney could make those plays. But hoping doesn't make it happen. Coaches have to see it. You act like coach is thinking I could put Carney in and win but I wont because NIL went to another player. Off the bye things may change as to how quick
which would be true of teams were stacking the box. But teams are not
Ricky was terrible he missed or didnt see see wide open receivers all over the field. Hes not a good player or game manager. He was the entire problem on offense
 
Agree with you that the running game has been terrible. Not thrilled with how Willis is running short yardage either.

I feel like the running game was working OK, not at the goal line obviously, until Mustangs understood we couldn’t throw.
 
The lack of passing is not the reason we have failed on 1yd plays.

Not sure about that. Our passes were consistently such low percentage, they felt comfortable swapping in run defense on critical downs. They basically ran hockey line changes, the commentator even mentioned it once so many players swapped.

Ironically, Michael Johnson Jr had a really nice 1yd TD pass today.
 
We have two weeks to install the third option with Villari. I understand that it requires a complete overhaul, different blocking scheme etc and ideally you'd want a complete camp to make that change. But I seriously think that's our only hope to make a bowl.
There’s our answer…..Villari at QB again.Lets run the Pop Warner offense that was so deceptive.
 
Not sure why people think Carney would do any better, based on information on this board, Carney played HS football in the Mecca of HS football, Texas , Texas has 6 P4 schools and I believe another 5-6 D1 schools, only UTSA and Rice offered him! I understand offers aren’t the end all, and I hope Carney has a great career at SU, but Fran would have him at the 2 behind Angeli if he was better than Rickey. It’s painful sometimes to watch players grow. The one issue I have with all of this is I wish Fran would take the points when he has the chance, Woody so far has proved reliable, and play field position, constantly going on 4th down is reckless, it can be exciting, but taking points and flipping field, especially with our D would be nice.
Not saying he had the best offers ever, but BYU, Louisville, GT, Arizona, Cal, BC, Minnesota all p4 offers along with solid G5 offers like Memphis, USF and app st offered. Idk if he's the answer, but I know Rickie isn't.
 

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