Imagining Conferences

[CousCuse]

I think you'll be out the amount of the bet. Let me know when UMass does something...ANYTHING. They are too late to the party. They have no support from anyone, except their administration (and barely that). My prediction is that in 5 years, they will give up the D1 experiment and head back to 1AA. No shame in that.

8-4 this year.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Yeah, they're doing fabulously. UMass attendance for their Gillette Stadium games was so pathetic that they've largely abandoned that deal. Meanwhile their games in Amherst averaged a whopping 12K per game last year.

looks like a patsy game pre-Parcells.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Your love for UMass is one of the funnier things going on here.

And the campus is fugly

 

[HtownOrange]

We would flat out run that conference if it ever materialized.

2) Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Duke, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Wake Forest, Clemson, South Carolina

Wouldn't that be similar to what you had prior to FSU? Clemson didn't allow anyone to play football and they didn't allow Clemson to play hoops the first time around. It would essentially be the same this time around.

 

[Scooch]

looks like a patsy game pre-Parcells.

Psssssht. Schaefer Stadium ruled.

 

[SWC75]

UConn is barely surviving right now and Pitt/BC are on their death bed.

Basketball wise conferences 2-7 and 9 are all stronger.

We would have to schedule Duke, Nova, Lousville, Kansas, and Michigan State every year OOC just to have a decent strength of schedule.

To top that off you can forget ever being on ESPN/ABC or CBS.

Pitt/BC are life support because they are in the ACC, a conference dominated by southern schools. So are we. We could actually have an interesting non-conference schedule without punishing ourselves because the conference schedule would not be such a gauntlet. If we are consistent contenders in this conference,w e'll be on national TV from time to time and northeastern TV the rest of the time, just as we were all those years in the Big East.

 

[SWC75]

You leave out Penn St one of our closest and longest tenured competitors but include Temple and UMass? Hmm

Because they would in conference #5, with schools a lot more similar to them than the other northeastern schools.

 

[SWC75]

Competitively, the ideal conference unless you are a powerhouse would have 2-3 good teams at the top, 2-3 bad teams at the bottom and mediocre teams in the middle. That way your record reflects the true quality of the team. If you want your team in a conference full of top ten teams, your record is going to be a lot worse than your team deserves. The additional prestige you'd get in the unlikely event hat you'd ever win such a conference is a poor trade off. the increased money may be a better one but the other teams in the conference are getting the same money so it's not going to be an advantage for your school.

 

[dasher]

Your love for UMass is one of the funnier things going on here.

Thought the same exact thing. UMass would hold out for #3

 

[dasher]

looks like a patsy game pre-Parcells.

The Pats went to the Super Bowl before Parcells.

 

[CousCuse]

 

[orange79]

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UMass = The Patriots? Is that what you are trying to say here? Otherwise, both are in Mass, and not much else.

 

[KaiserUEO]

The Pats went to the Super Bowl before Parcells.

Rod Rust and Mac drove attendance into the teens.

Not like 17,000...like 17.

 

[CousCuse]

UMass = The Patriots? Is that what you are trying to say here? Otherwise, both are in Mass, and not much else.

The image resonates in Mass.

 

[Alsacs]

It hasn't failed yet. I remember when the Patriots were mocked in Massachusetts and they came around to being an OK NFL franchise.

UMass should shrink or scrap football - The Boston Globe

 

[Alsacs]

Rod Rust and Mac drove attendance into the teens.

Not like 17,000...like 17.

Yeah the Patriots were competitive in the 70s and thru 1986.

Then from 1987 to 1992 they were the most pathetic franchise in all of sports.

 

[CousCuse]

UMass should shrink or scrap football - The Boston Globe

The comment section was better written and more informative that the hit piece article.

 

[Alsacs]

The comment section was better written and more informative that the hit piece article.

I don't like the Globe but the UMass program doesn't matter in MA.
The region is all pro sports.
Dennis Eckersley-David Price incident has gotten more media coverage than UMass football will get during their season.

 

[CousCuse]

I don't like the Globe but the UMass program doesn't matter in MA.
The region is all pro sports.
Dennis Eckersley-David Price incident has gotten more media coverage than UMass football will get during their season.

Well, SWC didn't have them in any of his proposed conferences so I guess that must mean they will go back to FCS level play.

 

[gbo]

2) Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Duke, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Wake Forest, Clemson, South Carolina

Wouldn't that be similar to what you had prior to FSU? Clemson didn't allow anyone to play football and they didn't allow Clemson to play hoops the first time around. It would essentially be the same this time around.

True...

 

[HtownOrange]

True...
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No one can blame you for wanting the dominance Clemson once exerted on the old ACC.

 

[bnoro]

The image resonates in Mass.

No, no it doesn't.

 

[Hoo's That]

2) Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Duke, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Wake Forest, Clemson, South Carolina

Wouldn't that be similar to what you had prior to FSU? Clemson didn't allow anyone to play football and they didn't allow Clemson to play hoops the first time around. It would essentially be the same this time around.

Yes. The ACC from 53 to 71(?) was those teams minus VPI. Ga Tech joined in 82 and FSU in 92.

 

[All4SU]

I can't believe any school would choose to go D1A at this point.

 

[HtownOrange]

Yes. The ACC from 53 to 71(?) was those teams minus VPI. Ga Tech joined in 82 and FSU in 92.

HA! I am only half way to old and senile!