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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 2397276, member: 628"] I have my moments. ;) Seriously, I think the defensive flopping and cigar smoking in the MTSU game this year turned a lot of people off towards Shafer. I liked the guy a ton when he was here and I was rooting like hell for him to succeed. I always thought his demeanor was tailor-made for CNY. But the unfortunate reality is that Shafer's 2nd and 3rd years were expected to essentially be the 6th and 7th years of the Marrone/Shafer era, and it ended up being really terrible years. When you also consider that the AD at that point was not the one who hired him it really was no surprise that he was let go. I agree with Bayside, Gross probably should have hired Hackett. What can you do? [/QUOTE]