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Message: [QUOTE="Dodger44, post: 3612379, member: 4840"] There are hard core SU fans on this forum, that if they where in a 3rd world country in front of a firing squad would be saying. "I think the firing squad only has blanks in their rifles !" These are the same optimists that raved about Shafer's recruiting too, but have selective memory. Location is a factor in recruiting and it isn't a factor. Explain how Boise State, Utah have had success in climates similar to ours. If an Urban Meyer came her this program would have different results quickly. As an SU alum and former season ticket holder I want to see the program back to its winning ways and if Babers can do it in the next couple of years great. But as they say in Missouri "SHOW ME". So far I see little forward progress. It's always wait till next year. And our competition is getting better in the ACC. Right coach = right results. [/QUOTE]