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Interesting exchange between Mark Stoops and fan

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Saw some parallels here:

Mark Stoops’ radio show got a little heated with an upset caller, but the coach let the caller go so Stoops could take the criticism.

The Wildcats have lost five in a row, including a 21-17 defeat at Vanderbilt on Saturday. Fans are upset, and Dale from Frankfort let his feelings out.

Dale: "We’ve put up with losing seasons for not just since you’ve been here, but the prior three years after (Rich) Brooks left. As a fanbase, we’re tired.”


Stoops: “I hear you.”

Dale: “Coach, get better recruits. You started things off by saying we’re bigger, faster, stronger. How much bigger, faster, stronger do you need to be?”

Stoops: “A lot. A lot.”

Dale: “What about player development?”

Stoops (to radio host): “No, let him go, I can take it.”

Dale: “I’m speaking for probably half of the Big Blue Nation that’s not brave enough to say it. I’m 59 years old. We’ve had football in this state, but we’re not a heavyweight. We hired you so we would be a heavyweight. You need to get the defensive coordinator on page with you, the offensive coordinator on page with you —“

Stoops (to radio host): “Let him go.”

Dale: “And you need to get more involved in the ballgame.”

Stoops: “I hear you, Dale. I agree with you.”

Dale: “People across Big Blue Nation are saying, ‘Hell yeah! Tell him, Dale!’”

Stoops: “I know it. That’s why I let you go, Dale. They were trying to dim you out, and I let them go.”

Dale: “If we lose these next two games, oh my God, ticket sales ain’t going to be good next year, new stadium or not.”

Stoops: “I appreciate it. I’m good with him. I’m a big boy. That’s why I’m here. To take that criticism. You asked a lot of poignant questions. How long’s it going to take? I don’t know. Are we bigger? We’re bigger, faster, and we are. How much more do we need to be? A lot. To be the contender you want to be and I want to be and compete for championships, it takes big, strong, mature guys. In this sport, it takes guys to develop year after year after year, top-20 recruits classes five years in a row, and then you’re going to be an SEC heavyweight. Can we contend, play better and win some of those games? Absolutely. Should we? Yes. We’ve been close. This is the first time I feel like we were a better team and went in there and lost (to Vandy). That puts the frustration at the highest point, and that goes with the territory, because I feel the same way.”

http://coachingsearch.com/article?a...how-caller-rip-him-I-can-take-it-Im-a-big-boy
 
Just get some strippers and whores. Works for Petrino.
 
Stoops: "To be the contender you want to be and I want to be and compete for championships, it takes big, strong, mature guys. In this sport, it takes guys to develop year after year after year, top-20 recruits classes five years in a row, and then you’re going to be an SEC heavyweight..”

http://coachingsearch.com/article?a...how-caller-rip-him-I-can-take-it-Im-a-big-boy

Last week, I posted the importance of almost universal red-shirting a Syracuse as one way to close the talent gap. Delayed gratification is best. But this only confirms this philosophy. SU football needs to become the Pitt basketball of the ACC. Our best chance is to get kids that are bigger, smarter and stronger and keep them in our program as long as humanly possible. This is so vital, IMHO, especially on the OLine and DLine. Let everyone else play the young pups that are not yet strong enough, don't grasp the nuances of a certain position, have not had had a change to be tutored and mentored by coaches or teammates. Let's wait it out, start really developing players and start winning on a consistent basis.
 
Last week, I posted the importance of almost universal red-shirting a Syracuse as one way to close the talent gap. Delayed gratification is best. But this only confirms this philosophy. SU football needs to become the Pitt basketball of the ACC. Our best chance is to get kids that are bigger, smarter and stronger and keep them in our program as long as humanly possible. This is so vital, IMHO, especially on the OLine and DLine. Let everyone else play the young pups that are not yet strong enough, don't grasp the nuances of a certain position, have not had had a change to be tutored and mentored by coaches or teammates. Let's wait it out, start really developing players and start winning on a consistent basis.

Lets be BYU east
 
Last week, I posted the importance of almost universal red-shirting a Syracuse as one way to close the talent gap. Delayed gratification is best. But this only confirms this philosophy. SU football needs to become the Pitt basketball of the ACC. Our best chance is to get kids that are bigger, smarter and stronger and keep them in our program as long as humanly possible. This is so vital, IMHO, especially on the OLine and DLine. Let everyone else play the young pups that are not yet strong enough, don't grasp the nuances of a certain position, have not had had a change to be tutored and mentored by coaches or teammates. Let's wait it out, start really developing players and start winning on a consistent basis.
I don't think it's a good policy to have across the board. Otherwise recruiting will suffer. However, whoever the next head coach is has to do a better job with it. It was unnecessary to burn many of the redshirts Shafer has over the last two or three seasons.
 
SU94 said:
Last week, I posted the importance of almost universal red-shirting a Syracuse as one way to close the talent gap. Delayed gratification is best. But this only confirms this philosophy. SU football needs to become the Pitt basketball of the ACC. Our best chance is to get kids that are bigger, smarter and stronger and keep them in our program as long as humanly possible. This is so vital, IMHO, especially on the OLine and DLine. Let everyone else play the young pups that are not yet strong enough, don't grasp the nuances of a certain position, have not had had a change to be tutored and mentored by coaches or teammates. Let's wait it out, start really developing players and start winning on a consistent basis.

Long term planning works better with guys who have more job security than Shafer did this season.
 
Last week, I posted the importance of almost universal red-shirting a Syracuse as one way to close the talent gap. Delayed gratification is best. But this only confirms this philosophy. SU football needs to become the Pitt basketball of the ACC. Our best chance is to get kids that are bigger, smarter and stronger and keep them in our program as long as humanly possible. This is so vital, IMHO, especially on the OLine and DLine. Let everyone else play the young pups that are not yet strong enough, don't grasp the nuances of a certain position, have not had had a change to be tutored and mentored by coaches or teammates. Let's wait it out, start really developing players and start winning on a consistent basis.
I agree 100%
 
Stoops: “I appreciate it. I’m good with him. I’m a big boy. That’s why I’m here. To take that criticism. You asked a lot of poignant questions. How long’s it going to take? I don’t know. Are we bigger? We’re bigger, faster, and we are. How much more do we need to be? A lot. To be the contender you want to be and I want to be and compete for championships, it takes big, strong, mature guys. In this sport, it takes guys to develop year after year after year, top-20 recruits classes five years in a row, and then you’re going to be an SEC heavyweight. Can we contend, play better and win some of those games? Absolutely. Should we? Yes. We’ve been close. This is the first time I feel like we were a better team and went in there and lost (to Vandy). That puts the frustration at the highest point, and that goes with the territory, because I feel the same way.”

http://coachingsearch.com/article?a...how-caller-rip-him-I-can-take-it-Im-a-big-boy

This is why it really takes about 6-7 years to hit paydirt in a rebuilding program. It takes a couple of years to get the recruiting up to a competitive level (top 20 as Stoops said) and then 3-4 more years at that level. Once you've gotten to that level, it is sustainable from coach to coach. We were just starting to get there with Marrone, but he left. I feel like the recruiting is starting to get back to where it needs to be, but it needs to be. I'm not convinced the coaching is as close to where it needs to be.
 

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