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Message: [QUOTE="Crusty, post: 2354676, member: 2265"] I realize things change quickly, but I think Wake has hit a high water mark. They have a lot of seniors and RS seniors and their classes have been average at best. Wofford graduates this year and Kendal (Jr) is a big step down. If this year's team is the best they can do with all that experience, their ceiling would appear to have been reached. BC has also not had classes that would seem to elevate their program and they play a brand of football that will keep them in games, but is not going to shock or surprise anyone. Pitt is our peer as is NCS. All this says we are a middling ACC program. Our next stop is getting to the level of L'ville, which ought to be next year. I figure we can be nipping at the heels of Clemson and FSU over the next 2-3 years. If we are one of the top 3 or 4 programs in our division we will go bowling most years and make it to the top 25 more often than not. LGO! [/QUOTE]