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[QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 3678522, member: 237"]
Let's keep the goalposts. We missed the tourney in 16-17 barely. In 16-17 and 18-19 we were ranked to start I believe. We were not ranked to finish that season or the other seasons you mentioned. Those 05-07 teams were not top 25 teams either despite the fun runs. I am being a realist here to you being a cynic. It's cool but you are far more cynic than realist. We aren't what we should but if your point is based on results then my argument holds. Talent is all a hypothetical comparison because the teams can't play one another to truly compare. 2015 was the penalty year. Don't forget we played part of this stretch with the NCAA penalties too.

2016 was a much better team than anything 05-08 and aside from the suspension realist that is a team online with expectations. 17-20 is 3 straight seasons and 5/6 not getting where we want. Paired with a pandemic and the penalties. I think it's very realist to look at next year as the year to break out if it's going to happen. This year is foolish to do so. With a healthy team and no pause there is no question we are 9-0 right now. That would be the best start in a while. Realistically we share some of the same concerns I just don't add so much cynicism on top. Programs are not defined in small stretches. We are very much in a space where we can have a turning point year again. It's not unrealistic given current roster and the fact we may not lose much going into the next two years and have talent like Richmond, Woody, Frank now and Benny incoming. Joe and Buddy have their warts but will be another year older and so forth with extra eligibility.
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