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[QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 3678538, member: 237"]
You tell me since you are the one stating we are Seton Hall and Providence. All I see is cynicism. I honestly don't follow how you are qualifying the program as having regressed in brand. You say 6 years so I challenge that with 2016 and look at other down periods. The amount of teams in the tourney doesn't make sense to bring up. We made the tourney in 18 and 19 but the point you were getting into was being ranked. Thus we discussed ranking but apparently I am wrong there too?

You say realist but I challenge it as a fellow realist and I am being some idealist? You can read any of my posts I am no idealist. So what is it that quantifiably says we are not SU anymore? Is it 6 yrs of not playing a ranked game after Jan? Is it missing the tourney? All I see is someone who is completely cynical and set in that we are mediocre now and 1976 through 2014 is irrelevant.

You have totally lost me on your reasoning. It feels like you keep shifting and it all comes back to being cynical and defeatist not realist. Just debating and being honest. I am not trying to being an ass here.
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