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Message: [QUOTE="sutomcat, post: 4304401, member: 27"] You make a lot of good points. Jake must have a strong finish to his career to make the HOF. Not to denigrate some of the pitchers you compared him to but I think when you look at things like ERA and strikeouts, he has been more dominant than more of them more consistently. He is certainly pitching at a different level than Santana. IMHO. Plus, he is a terrific fielder and was one of the best hitting pitchers when this was part of the game. I think Johan was also a fine fielder and like Jake, had a very good pickoff move. He is throwing it harder and better now than at any time in his career. If he can stay healthy, I like his chances. Hopefully he gets some good advice from doctors to help him stay off the IL. He is fun to watch when he is 100%. [/QUOTE]