JB has a conundrum right now

[Jack Hall]

Need Trevor's outside shooting but when he and Ennis are out there together 1) the top of our zone defense is very weak IMO and 2) There is only one good ball handler. JB can fix 1 and 2 by simply inserting Gbinje but now we don't really have a dependable 3 pt shooter. Will this problem last the entire season or is it "fixable"??

 

[Jack Hall]

Need Trevor's outside shooting but when he and Ennis are out there together 1) the top of our zone defense is very weak IMO and 2) There is only one good ball handler. JB can fix 1 and 2 by simply inserting Gbinje but now we don't really have a dependable 3 pt shooter. Will this problem last the entire season or is it "fixable"??

Have you ever seen JB sub in and out two guys for offense and defense the way he did w Trevor and Gbinje last night at end of game?

 

[stuckinbig11]

Ennis and Cooney are the best defenders up front. Silent G is long, but he is still learning where to be.

 

[PhatOrange]

Have you ever seen JB sub in and out two guys for offense and defense the way he did w Trevor and Gbinje last night at end of game?

I've seen him do it quite a bit over the years, just not much with guards.

 

[SoBeCuse]

Problem was the interior D yesterday not the guards defense, imo. Even Boeheim said in the presser that StF had 29 points in the point. 29!! Now, we'll see how they do moving forward. Fordham really hurt them and they have the Minnesota kid coming up. I don't think they are in Cook's, Sulaimon's or Thornton's league yet. That could be ugly.

 

[Trueblue25]

G has to do more on offense. He's not making mistakes or playing badly...but he needs to just take control. He has the size, athleticism and talent.

 

[dasher]

Have you ever seen JB sub in and out two guys for offense and defense the way he did w Trevor and Gbinje last night at end of game?

yes, of course. He has done it a lot over the years.

 

[Madbiker]

JB obviously likes Silent G's defense at the top of the zone. Ennis is having real problems on D. Don't know if that is just the learning curve of knowing where to be in the zone, adapting to college shooters who can hit from beyond the 3 pt line requiring closer guarding, or just a terminal lack of quickness which will be permanent. Switching offense-defense with G and Cooney showed JB doesn't trust Cooney on D either. The problem with G is he doesn't look to shoot so he doesn't score and our challenged offense gets even more limited when he replaces Cooney. This is going to be an issue all season. (Whitehead anyone?)

 

[Jack Hall]

JB obviously likes Silent G's defense at the top of the zone. Ennis is having real problems on D. Don't know if that is just the learning curve of knowing where to be in the zone, adapting to college shooters who can hit from beyond the 3 pt line requiring closer guarding, or just a terminal lack of quickness which will be permanent. Switching offense-defense with G and Cooney showed JB doesn't trust Cooney on D either. The problem with G is he doesn't look to shoot so he doesn't score and our challenged offense gets even more limited when he replaces Cooney. This is going to be an issue all season. (Whitehead anyone?)

I agree on everything you said, not sure why JB didn't go after whitehead harder. Not sure Joseph will play much next yr...

 

[Sgt Cuse]

I've seen him do it quite a bit over the years, just not much with guards.

I wonder how close JB was to including DC2 in the offensive rotation. Seemed like DC2 provided a significant offensive upgrade yesterday.

 

[rrlbees]

JB obviously likes Silent G's defense at the top of the zone. Ennis is having real problems on D. Don't know if that is just the learning curve of knowing where to be in the zone, adapting to college shooters who can hit from beyond the 3 pt line requiring closer guarding, or just a terminal lack of quickness which will be permanent. Switching offense-defense with G and Cooney showed JB doesn't trust Cooney on D either. The problem with G is he doesn't look to shoot so he doesn't score and our challenged offense gets even more limited when he replaces Cooney. This is going to be an issue all season. (Whitehead anyone?)

How does going offense defense show JB doesn't trust Cooney on defense?


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[Jack Hall]

I wonder how close JB was to including DC2 in the offensive rotation. Seemed like DC2 provided a significant offensive upgrade yesterday.

It's true if you can sub gbinje for Trevor why not sub cole for rak after Keita fouled out? I have no idea why we sched all four of these cupcakes if we aren't going to take them seriously

 

[rrlbees]

It's true if you can sub gbinje for Trevor why not sub cole for rak after Keita fouled out? I have no idea why we sched all four of these cupcakes if we aren't going to take them seriously

We didn't take them seriously?


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[Jack Hall]

We didn't take them seriously?

I was half kidding. But it did look to me like we fell asleep from 8 min mark in first half until the final 3 mins of second half. And then on top of it, we couldn't score a lick but JB sat down the leading scorer most of the second half? Sub him in like he subbed in gbinje On the offensive end during a dead ball I say!

 

[Jack Hall]

I was half kidding. But it did look to me like we fell asleep from 8 min mark in first half until the final 3 mins of second half. And then on top of it, we couldn't score a lick but JB sat down the leading scorer most of the second half? Sub him in like he subbed in gbinje On the offensive end during a dead ball I say!

Sorry I mean like he subbed in Trevor for gbinje on offensive end. Trevor and DC on offense. Rak and gbinje on defense is what I wanted to see after Keita fouled out at end

 

[moqui]

JB obviously likes Silent G's defense at the top of the zone. Ennis is having real problems on D. Don't know if that is just the learning curve of knowing where to be in the zone, adapting to college shooters who can hit from beyond the 3 pt line requiring closer guarding, or just a terminal lack of quickness which will be permanent. Switching offense-defense with G and Cooney showed JB doesn't trust Cooney on D either. The problem with G is he doesn't look to shoot so he doesn't score and our challenged offense gets even more limited when he replaces Cooney. This is going to be an issue all season. (Whitehead anyone?)

the best defensive guard duo is Cooney/Gbinije (remember, it was Cooney's steal at 3:10 that launched the closing 10-0 run). I'm not a mind reader, but I think perhaps JB didn't sub out Ennis because he knows he needs to maintain the kids' confidence for Hawaii and the toughest opponents he has faced in his young career.

 

[Jack Hall]

the best defensive guard duo is Cooney/Gbinije (remember, it was Cooney's steal at 3:10 that launched the closing 10-0 run). I'm not a mind reader, but I think perhaps JB didn't sub out Ennis because he knows he needs to maintain the kids' confidence for Hawaii and the toughest opponents he has faced in his young career.

Yes I agree good post, the zone is not coming easy to Tyler it seems

 

[Melancer46]

the best defensive guard duo is Cooney/Gbinije (remember, it was Cooney's steal at 3:10 that launched the closing 10-0 run). I'm not a mind reader, but I think perhaps JB didn't sub out Ennis because he knows he needs to maintain the kids' confidence for Hawaii and the toughest opponents he has faced in his young career.

Agreed, but I think he left Ennis in because of his ball-handling; not just as a confidence thing.

Having said that, Ennis needs to be smarter at the ends of games. With 30 seconds left, when St. Francis needed to foul and weren't guarding Ennis, he gave the ball up to Grant and they pounced on him because they know Grant is a poor free throw shooter. Ennis needs to hold onto that ball.

Also, we need Cooney out there at the ends of games. He's proven to be the one consistent free throw shooter we have IMO.

 

[HoustonCuse]

I was half kidding. But it did look to me like we fell asleep from 8 min mark in first half until the final 3 mins of second half. And then on top of it, we couldn't score a lick but JB sat down the leading scorer most of the second half? Sub him in like he subbed in gbinje On the offensive end during a dead ball I say!

Well, for one, you can't do offensive/defensive subs for an entire half. You need dead balls after every possession.

Secondly, Coleman was getting abused by their interior guys and giving up as many points as he was getting. As it turned out, and JB pointed this out, our other bigs didn't exactly shut their guys down either. JB plays percentages. Coleman was getting put-backs and garbage baskets, not getting offensive sets run for him. So his ability to impact the game offensively was purely a matter of chance. He could have played 20 more minutes and not scored, it depended on rebounds being available, etc. But his horribleness on defense was consistent and so it was going to be there on every possession. A guy who plays percentages like JB, is not going to take that trade.

As for leaving Ennis in at the end. I'm sorry but my response is "duh." Ennis is a proven winner (watch his HS games especially crunch time in national games), and like MCW, is a guy who can languish for a whole game then make the game winning play. You want guys like that out there. It's not stats or anything else, it's putting the guy who is capable of winning you the game on the floor at winning time.

 

[Jack Hall]

Well, for one, you can't do offensive/defensive subs for an entire half. You need dead balls after every possession.

Secondly, Coleman was getting abused by their interior guys and giving up as many points as he was getting. As it turned out, and JB pointed this out, our other bigs didn't exactly shut their guys down either. JB plays percentages. Coleman was getting put-backs and garbage baskets, not getting offensive sets run for him. So his ability to impact the game offensively was purely a matter of chance. He could have played 20 more minutes and not scored, it depended on rebounds being available, etc. But his horribleness on defense was consistent and so it was going to be there on every possession. A guy who plays percentages like JB, is not going to take that trade.

As for leaving Ennis in at the end. I'm sorry but my response is "duh." Ennis is a proven winner (watch his HS games especially crunch time in national games), and like MCW, is a guy who can languish for a whole game then make the game winning play. You want guys like that out there. It's not stats or anything else, it's putting the guy who is capable of winning you the game on the floor at winning time.

I agree just talking about end when he was subbing gbinje and cooney in and out during dead balls. IMO Cole, rak and Keita all had questionable interior d last night. How many mins did it take Keita to foul out? Yikes. The one diff being cole was scoring, leading scorer in fact. Rak and Keita nit so much

 

[Jack Hall]

Well, for one, you can't do offensive/defensive subs for an entire half. You need dead balls after every possession.

Secondly, Coleman was getting abused by their interior guys and giving up as many points as he was getting. As it turned out, and JB pointed this out, our other bigs didn't exactly shut their guys down either. JB plays percentages. Coleman was getting put-backs and garbage baskets, not getting offensive sets run for him. So his ability to impact the game offensively was purely a matter of chance. He could have played 20 more minutes and not scored, it depended on rebounds being available, etc. But his horribleness on defense was consistent and so it was going to be there on every possession. A guy who plays percentages like JB, is not going to take that trade.

As for leaving Ennis in at the end. I'm sorry but my response is "duh." Ennis is a proven winner (watch his HS games especially crunch time in national games), and like MCW, is a guy who can languish for a whole game then make the game winning play. You want guys like that out there. It's not stats or anything else, it's putting the guy who is capable of winning you the game on the floor at winning time.

And I disagree, I think if you could look at plus minus for the night, Dajuan might be near the top of that stat last night for the Cuse? Anyone have that. My recollection is when Cole was first taken out in first half we were up like six. And when he was taken out early in second half for good we had a slight lead...I could be wrong...

 

[SaltLakeOrange]

Problem was the interior D yesterday not the guards defense, imo. Even Boeheim said in the presser that StF had 29 points in the point. 29!! Now, we'll see how they do moving forward. Fordham really hurt them and they have the Minnesota kid coming up. I don't think they are in Cook's, Sulaimon's or Thornton's league yet. That could be ugly.

Yes, but it was lazy guard play that allowed all those passes into the lost.me the have to be denied...