JB on Waiters

[jordoo]

3 guards is all we really need, provided they stay healthy. Lets face it, we have no "need" for MCW to play a single minute this year. If an injury were to happen next year and we only have the 3 guards then I think Mookie might get some pt but we'd also see JSouth get some additional time and possibly even Grant. Not ideal but we could maybe steal 5+ minutes with one of them at the 2. Sounds kinda scary but I think I'd be comfortable with 5th year SR Mookie as out 4th guard. Who knows? We don't seem to be recruiting many guards either.

I think CJ would play the 2 on defense over James or Grant if we were looking to steal minutes. Overall I agree if Mookie is the 4th guard he is really only playing in blow outs and if there is a n injury. Still I'd prefer a guy I know can shoot and has been in the system for 4+ years as our emergency guard over a freshman 12 class guard that was a leftover.

 

[reedny]

Dion's playing great. He's got an NBA body and pro-level athletic skills, but I'm not convinced he jumps:

1- So far in the mocks, he's a late 1st rounder (at best), in the lists I've seen. This means, unless we go to the final 4 and he dominates, he could slip into the neverland of the second round (we saw how well that worked for Andy Rautins, who DID NOT jump). Check here:
http://www.mynbadraft.com/2012-NBA-Mock-Draft (26 .. late 1st)
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/ (25, late 1st)
http://nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft (not mentioned 1st or second round)

2- He's shooting 37% from outside (33% last year). http://stats.syracuse.com/cbk/players.asp?id=97406&team=553 By NBA standards, this isn't eye-popping. There are a bunch of guards shooting as well (DJO, Marquette 37+%), better (Austin Rivers, Duke 38%) or much better (Bufford, OSU 39% over 4 years) percentages.

3- If he's projected as a SG, 6'4" isn't ideal pro size, and if he's taken as a PG, he needs a year to show that he can run an elite college offense and win big games in the tournament. Right now, he's a (great) backup.

Just sayin.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Dion's playing great. He's got an NBA body and pro-level athletic skills, but I'm not convinced he jumps:

1- So far in the mocks, he's a late 1st rounder (at best), in the lists I've seen. This means, unless we go to the final 4 and he dominates, he could slip into the neverland of the second round (we saw how well that worked for Andy Rautins, who DID NOT jump). Check here:
http://www.mynbadraft.com/2012-NBA-Mock-Draft (26 .. late 1st)
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2012/ (25, late 1st)
http://nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft (not mentioned 1st or second round)

2- He's shooting 37% from outside (33% last year). http://stats.syracuse.com/cbk/players.asp?id=97406&team=553 By NBA standards, this isn't eye-popping. There are a bunch of guards shooting as well (DJO, Marquette 37+%), better (Austin Rivers, Duke 38%) or much better (Bufford, OSU 39% over 4 years) percentages.

3- If he's projected as a SG, 6'4" isn't ideal pro size, and if he's taken as a PG, he needs a year to show that he can run an elite college offense and win big games in the tournament. Right now, he's a (great) backup.

Just sayin.

Agree and makes great sense but I think Dion's ceiling with regard to the NBA draft won't really get much better this year or next, he's a mid to late 1st rounder at best unless somebody takes a real shine to him

 

[Fjoinkay]

I'd love to see Fab at 90%. I imagine that would include the ability to make different shots, moves and passes from the high and the low post. On defense I think he is already much closer to 90, but I'd love for him to stick around for at least one more year to develop in all areas.

 

[jdubs30]

Agree and makes great sense but I think Dion's ceiling with regard to the NBA draft won't really get much better this year or next, he's a mid to late 1st rounder at best unless somebody takes a real shine to him

Dion can significantly improve his stock when he can prove he can run a college offense as a point. I'd have to think next year with him and Triche starting that Dion would be the primary ball handler.

Right now if you're an NBA team you're taking a 6'4 guard who is too small to play SG, but hasn't proven he can play PG either.

He has a lot to work on. Here's a quick rundown why I think he's not quite ready;
- Tweener
- Not too explosive or overly athletic (this is more addressing the DWade comparisons; although this is something he can't improve)
- Inconsistent jumper with a slow release
- Questionable shot selection and sometimes makes a pass that isn't there
- Plays 1-on-1 too much

Obviously some positives:
- Good finisher around the rim
- Good range
- Excellent hands
- Built like a linebacker
- Excellent handle
- Clutch

I think between 20-25 is fair for him right now, with the possibility of going top 15 if he breaks out in March. However, if he comes back next year and plays point (and well), I could see him going top 6 or 7 easily.

 

[jdubs30]

I'd love to see Fab at 90%. I imagine that would include the ability to make different shots, moves and passes from the high and the low post. On defense I think he is already much closer to 90, but I'd love for him to stick around for at least one more year to develop in all areas.

Someone asked Ford today on the ESPN.com chat about Fab. Ford said he'd be a first round pick for sure right now, but he thinks he should come back one more year. You'd have to think Fab's stock would improve considerably if he came back (especially with Sullinger, Perry Jones, Drummond, ADavis and TRob all presumably coming out this year)

 

[omniorange]

Unfortunately, kids make up there mind right about now, well alot of them because they essentially call it quits this semester and quit going to class, etc. Maybe working out more than the other teammates, getting ready for the draft. Combines, etc. I don't know how the kids thet declare even finish the semester regardless.

AT least that have been what I have learned from a few people that would know, ( Not Syracuse people)

Apparently not Kentucky. All their NBA lottery picks manage to complete their spring semester in good academic standing. Wonder how that happens? :crazy:

Cheers,
Neil

 

[cuseincincy]

Dion can significantly improve his stock when he can prove he can run a college offense as a point. I'd have to think next year with him and Triche starting that Dion would be the primary ball handler.

Right now if you're an NBA team you're taking a 6'4 guard who is too small to play SG, but hasn't proven he can play PG either.

He has a lot to work on. Here's a quick rundown why I think he's not quite ready;
- Tweener
- Not too explosive or overly athletic (this is more addressing the DWade comparisons; although this is something he can't improve)
- Inconsistent jumper with a slow release
- Questionable shot selection and sometimes makes a pass that isn't there
- Plays 1-on-1 too much

Obviously some positives:
- Good finisher around the rim
- Good range
- Excellent hands
- Built like a linebacker
- Excellent handle
- Clutch

I think between 20-25 is fair for him right now, with the possibility of going top 15 if he breaks out in March. However, if he comes back next year and plays point (and well), I could see him going top 6 or 7 easily.

Being "ready" has very little to do with a players NBA draft position. NBA draft is all about potential.