JB Postgame Presser

[DaCuse]

Hammers AG, AG gets benched

Meanwhile Buddy ice cold and makes excuse that he's not used to getting bumped after being out.

The double standard he displays is a really bad look

Anybody disagree?

I completely agree with you. His bias for Buddy makes me sick.

 

[Wrinkle]

It's not as if this was the first sign. Yes, JB absolutely favors his son and plays him too much and lets him off the hook. But I don't think JB believes it's hurting the team in any way. He probably just believes in Buddy that much.

 

[moqui]

You're assuming that what transpired is the only reality that could have occurred. And I know you know this is BS.

it's the only outcome of which we can be certain. many, maybe most, other options would have ended in a loss on that day. but it was a win. reality is important.

we can all sit on our sofas & masturbate to the genius moves that we would have made, and that's great; our preogative as fans, kudos to us. but in the real world we have a perimeter oriented team that on this afternoon saw its perimeter players shoot a collective 6/37. and a coach who somehow managed to wring lemonade out of all those lemons.

 

[moqui]

So when is criticism allowed? Not saying I want to criticize anything, just curious. Like I said multiple times yesterday... I was completely calm. Still am. Don't really have any strong opinions. Wins are important. Clearly. What if Bryant made one of their final two shots in game 1? Does that allow for more criticism because we had an L on the record?

i'm focused on a particular crew of posters who criticize in bad faith.

 

[Trueblue25]

4 rebounds in 96 min played

 

[Wrinkle]

it's the only outcome of which we can be certain. many, maybe most, other options would have ended in a loss on that day. but it was a win. reality is important.

we can all sit on our sofas & masturbate to the genius moves that we would have made, and that's great; our preogative as fans, kudos to us. but in the real world we have a perimeter oriented team that on this afternoon saw its perimeter players shoot a collective 6/37. and a coach who somehow managed to wring lemonade out of all those lemons.

If that victory equals lemonade, it was the worst tasting lemonade I've ever had

 

[NineOneSeven]

4 rebounds in 96 min played

 

[djcon57]

i'm focused on a particular crew of posters who criticize in bad faith.

then why not address them and their posts directly instead of this passive aggressive weirdness and overuse of the word masterbation.

 

[DaCuse]

What is always made me curious is if Buddy’s teammates resent him for his favorable treatment when he clearly should be the one benched.

 

[djcon57]

You're assuming that what transpired is the only reality that could have occurred. And I know you know this is BS.

We played a team we should have smoked (line was what? 17.5?) and you are saying because we won, every decision was the right one? That team lost 70% of it's scoring from last year.

That same team lost its best player early in the game on our home court.

We should have smoked this team. Kadary should have started. Buddy should have barely seen the floor. JGIII should have been off ball. But since we eeked out a W against bad team on our home floor after they lost their best player, somehow all is right and JB aced it?

I disagree.

Not only should we have smashed that team, we actively recruited against ourselves by who we played and how.

so the story going forward is that when we lose...We 100 percent know Jb made the wrong decisions. That’s what I’m being told.

 

[Cuse_bball]

What is always made me curious is if Buddy’s teammates resent him for his favorable treatment when he clearly should be the one benched.

You’re clueless if you think that’s the case... I’ve heard multiple players saying Buddy is the hardest worker on the team and is always in the gym. If you can’t see why Alan was benched you weren’t watching the game. Minimal effort, turnovers, to go along with no offensive input at all.

 

[DilemaCuse]

What is always made me curious is if Buddy’s teammates resent him for his favorable treatment when he clearly should be the one benched.

Brycen Goodine i bet is one. FWIW BG is not doing much at PC. I think that evaluation might have been a reach by the staff.

Anybody notice how the staff hasnt been recruiting any other SGs lately especially when they could transistion JG to the point?

 

[moqui]

then why not address them and their posts directly instead of this passive aggressive weirdness and overuse of the word masterbation.

because bad faith actors are not worth dealing with directly

 

[mikemorg]

These discussions will be ongoing until Buddy graduates though. Unless your kid is Doug McDermott and is undoubtedly the best player on the court, it's inevitable. It happened to Steve and Bryce Alford at UCLA, Fran McCaffery got some criticism for his usage of Connor his freshman year, Todd Lickliter kept playing his walk-on freshman son John at Iowa for some reason. Heck Craig Neal's son Cullen even transferred after things got so bad for him with the fans in New Mexico.

Reminds me of one of the greatest Dome chants of all time - after Big John got kicked out of the legendary 1990 SU vs G'Town game:
"Where's Your Dad, Ronnie, Where's Your Dad?" (clap clap)
"Where's Your Dad, Ronnie, Where's Your Dad?" (clap clap)
"Where's Your Dad, Ronnie, Where's Your Dad?" (clap clap)

Completely messed up the kid's head - committed a few turnovers and had to be pulled from the game. I miss the Big East.

 

[sdorange]

strange how some provide cover for Goodine and Carey for having to "settle in to a new program" as their coaches playing veteran upperclassman. Yet, JB plays his upperclassman (bb in this case) over Griffin in ONE game that they win and its even controversial. Is it just about Buddy?

 

[721Comstock]

You’re clueless if you think that’s the case... I’ve heard multiple players saying Buddy is the hardest worker on the team and is always in the gym. If you can’t see why Alan was benched you weren’t watching the game. Minimal effort, turnovers, to go along with no offensive input at all.

Ok, let’s assume that’s true.

Why not play Woody there then?

He’s got more time playing the 3 than Buddy has had, he’s a plus defender & rebounder, and he wasn’t 1-12 shooting.

We had options.
Buddy was NOT the best one.
And yet - he played, in spite of that.

 

[Cuse_bball]

strange how some provide cover for Goodine and Carey for having to "settle in to a new program" as their coaches playing veteran upperclassman. Yet, JB plays his upperclassman (bb in this case) over Griffin in ONE game that they win and its even controversial. Is it just about Buddy?

It’s 100 percent about buddy...considering he’s a home grown kid who has been nothing but loyal to Syracuse you would think he would be a fan favorite instead he’s always compared and critiqued... the kid averaged 15 points and had the most threes in the whole league last year as a sophomore and most people thought he might not ever really contribute here. Let’s cut him some slack about one bad shooting night in which we still won.

 

[Cuse_bball]

Ok, let’s assume that’s true.

Why not play Woody there then?

He’s got more time playing the 3 than Buddy has had, he’s a plus defender & rebounder, and he wasn’t 1-12 shooting.

We had options.
Buddy was NOT the best one.
And yet - he played, in spite of that.

The same reason JB rode with Girard in games he wasn’t shooting well... they have proven they are very good players and have the most experience in close games...woody has been very good but he’s not really close to buddy in terms of being a scoring threat and experience playing close college basketball games. Yet anyways.

 

[Ghost]

A coach can see effort. A coach can’t predict shooting percentage.

If the argument is that Buddy shouldn’t have played because he missed shots, that’s a ‘hindsight is 20/20’ argument. You can’t eyeball if a guy who starts 0-6 is going to got 6-12 or 0-12. How many times have we seen a shooter play 3/4 of a game ice cold and then rattle off 3 or 4 makes in short order? I’ve seen it a lot.

Eh, "what if" scenarios.

What if AG started hustling? Maybe he was feeling down, if so, that's cool. If not, coach him up and get that motor going.

I'm still not even all that sure where the appearance of next-level effort comes from with BB. I know he's a super hard worker. He may also lead D1 in loafing back on a fast breaks.....I know he prolly ain't catching anyone, but he ain't exactly trying either.

Buddy and JG are maybe 20 minute dudes...except when they're on. Then they are 40 minute dudes - and that's fine with me. That's not an agenda though...just my thoughts on how pedestrian they are as basketball players.

Finding ways to get them more time on the floor when they're not hitting shots just leaves us with out-of-this-world, off-the-charts type spacing - and a stagnant offense where we just wait it out until the shots are falling.

Trying to "get guys going" that aren't capable of "getting going" outside of awaiting a three to fall, seems like a risky proposition (if the other defense is AT ALL capable of guarding anyone) that all too often that leads to terrible dry spells that seem to linger (as we wait out the "what if").

Kadary fixes a lot of this by just having a legit PG...as to the rest, we'll see how the minutes shake out. Perhaps it was just to win THIS game, but we use that excuse a lot, and we don't win as much any more.

 

[NorSyr66]

Hammers AG, AG gets benched

Meanwhile Buddy ice cold and makes excuse that he's not used to getting bumped after being out.

The double standard he displays is a really bad look

Anybody disagree?

Initially my head was thinking along these lines but after reading many posts, listening to JB's presser and some time thinking about the situation, I tend to think it was the best way to finish yesterday's game. Of course this assumes we want the W at nearly any cost and JB will always go with trusted players at crunch time. We started the game with only 4 of our trusted five players from last year plus AG who has performed well in the first five games as a two year veteran transfer. A combination of both our offense and defense struggling along with Northeastern playing aggressively and hitting open threes immediately rained on our parade. It did not get any better as we struggled, led by poor shooting from both AG and Buddy turning almost into a 3 against 5 game. As the game struggled into the second half, all of us plus JB kept thinking we would eventually come out of the fog and separate from Northeastern, but it only got worse. Something had to change and Kadary had to get into the game to hopefully spark the offense. I think JB had his mind made up to rotate AG and Buddy and go with which ever one played better. Unfortunately AG had a couple of bad plays back to back and he was gone. Both AG and Buddy were adding very little, it was just AG seemed to be in a funk and all out of rhythm while Buddy was playing "Buddy-like normal" just poor shooting day. We got lucky and pulled out the W. The unfortunate part was for JB to make some of the ugly statements about AG's play in the press conference. But that is water over the damn, let's hope AG has tough skin and comes out and plays one heck of a game on Saturday. I think it was just a bad day. Good luck on Saturday AG!

 

[Newhouser]

You’re clueless if you think that’s the case... I’ve heard multiple players saying Buddy is the hardest worker on the team and is always in the gym. If you can’t see why Alan was benched you weren’t watching the game. Minimal effort, turnovers, to go along with no offensive input at all.

I think you are right but I would love to see the player with enough stones to call nepotism. Talk about PT suicide.

 

[UpstateSM]

If you think JB doesn’t want to win more than you do then you’re an idiot

 

[Ghost]

If you think JB doesn’t want to win more than you do then you’re an idiot

This is an off-topic take.

 

[Brooky03]

Eh, "what if" scenarios.

What if AG started hustling? Maybe he was feeling down, if so, that's cool. If not, coach him up and get that motor going.

I'm still not even all that sure where the appearance of next-level effort comes from with BB. I know he's a super hard worker. He may also lead D1 in loafing back on a fast breaks...I know he prolly ain't catching anyone, but he ain't exactly trying either.

Buddy and JG are maybe 20 minute dudes...except when they're on. Then they are 40 minute dudes - and that's fine with me. That's not an agenda though...just my thoughts on how pedestrian they are as basketball players.

Finding ways to get them more time on the floor when they're not hitting shots just leaves us with out-of-this-world, off-the-charts type spacing - and a stagnant offense where we just wait it out until the shots are falling.

Trying to "get guys going" that aren't capable of "getting going" outside of awaiting a three to fall, seems like a risky proposition (if the other defense is AT ALL capable of guarding anyone) that all too often that leads to terrible dry spells that seem to linger (as we wait out the "what if").

Kadary fixes a lot of this by just having a legit PG...as to the rest, we'll see how the minutes shake out. Perhaps it was just to win THIS game, but we use that excuse a lot, and we don't win as much any more.

When JB talks about effort, I imagine he’s talking about defense more often than not. I was working and not watching the game super closely, so I don’t know how evident Griffin’s lack of effort was (if it was evident).

 

[UpstateSM]

This is an off-topic take.

If you think there’s nepotism involved that impacts how bad JB wants to win

Edit: It’s also not a take, it’s a fact lol