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JB's Presser after EMU

player (a)" johnny you spilled your milk at the table . go to your room !" vs. player (b) "would somebody here please get johnny more milk ?"

as a former player that's just absolutely maddening . you wanna talk about coming into a game with a bad attitude ? mendes brothers mode.
 
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player (a)" johnny you spilled your milk at the table . go to your room !" vs. player (b) "would somebody here please get johnny more milk ?"

as a former player that would be absolutely maddening . you wanna talk about coming into a game with a bad attitude ?

Or it could be that Johnny has repeatedly spilled his milk while reaching across the table, been corrected for it, while Joe accidentally spills his milk when asked to pass the butter. :)

I imagine a team that has big issues rebounding has definitely told the guards they need to be much more active on the boards, especially an athletic 6'6" guard and not to cherry pick. Those are habits that need to be broken for our team to be successful. Gbinije and Cooney and Frank averaged 7.9 rebounds between them last year. This year Howard, Battle and Gillon average 5.8 rebounds and Gillon, at least a half foot shorter, averages more than Battle in almost identical minutes. (1.8 vs 1.5). Plus if we don't get the rebound while we have a guard heading down court, the opponent is then playing without a perimeter defender in position.
 
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give them liberty , equality and fraternity. and we grow stronger .
 
did you read this or just cite it ? cuz it is the antithesis of your point.

That is a key point. One of the big negatives for players is when coaches are perceived to have favorites or to play favorites. This is when a coach will lose the trust of the players. Therefore, when treating players fairly, but not equally, the coach must allay those fears...
The first point is important for coaches to learn: Yelling simply does not work with all players. It is not that the player ignores the coach or does not care; instead, as with Ginobili, it often can be that the player cares too much and is his or her own worst critic. Understanding the psychology is important because it alleviates some of the coach and player frustration, and it improves the coach-player dynamic.

The second point is equally important: Many coaches yell at players when the players know that they made the mistake. What’s the point? The coach is not instructing or helping the player. The coach is making him or herself feel better. I once watched a coach who yelled at his players after every mistake and frequently would add, loud enough so everyone heard him, “we practiced that yesterday.” The coach wanted everyone to know it was the player’s fault, not bad coaching. However, that’s terrible coaching! That coach is worried more about his ego than his players or the team. The feedback to a player after a mistake should be informational; otherwise, the coach’s yelling typically increases the frustration that the player already feels.

jb's approach i find is no way constructive. it's simply tear you down. often even in the press. totally uncalled for. and clearly not working.


 
did you read this or just cite it ? cuz it is the antithesis of your point.

That is a key point. One of the big negatives for players is when coaches are perceived to have favorites or to play favorites. This is when a coach will lose the trust of the players. Therefore, when treating players fairly, but not equally, the coach must allay those fears...
The first point is important for coaches to learn: Yelling simply does not work with all players. It is not that the player ignores the coach or does not care; instead, as with Ginobili, it often can be that the player cares too much and is his or her own worst critic. Understanding the psychology is important because it alleviates some of the coach and player frustration, and it improves the coach-player dynamic.

The second point is equally important: Many coaches yell at players when the players know that they made the mistake. What’s the point? The coach is not instructing or helping the player. The coach is making him or herself feel better. I once watched a coach who yelled at his players after every mistake and frequently would add, loud enough so everyone heard him, “we practiced that yesterday.” The coach wanted everyone to know it was the player’s fault, not bad coaching. However, that’s terrible coaching! That coach is worried more about his ego than his players or the team. The feedback to a player after a mistake should be informational; otherwise, the coach’s yelling typically increases the frustration that the player already feels.

jb's approach i find is no way constructive. it's simply tear you down. often even in the press. totally uncalled for. and clearly not working.
Yep - closing in on 1000 wins. Clearly not working. Nailed it! Congrats!
 
We don't usually have senior starters that can't be counted on to perform even semi consistently from game to game.

Everyone gets treated differently based on what JB believes he can get out of them. Clearly he believes there is something to be gotten out of Roberson given that he has cared enough to make him the whipping boy, but I think he is starting to reach the end of the rope. I think Robie is reaching (maybe reached it two or three games ago) a major turning point. If he doesn't turn it around like almost immediately, his opportunity will be gone and it will be TT's opportunity to lose. TT is already dug significantly into Roberson's playing time. A night like last night was a chance for Robie to move the needle back towards himself a bit...not sure he did that. At some point JB has got to say its not worth continuing to make the investment in Robie, the investment should be made in TT.
I think the investment will be in TT, but at the expense of Coleman as well as Roby. TT is showing skills that will force him to be on the court more and more.
 
hostile witness your honor. they simply dodges the issue and cast aspersion when their belief mode is called into question. motion for dismissal.
 
Can't remember the last time I've seen Jim so visibly frustrated. Over a dozen times he jumped out of his seat and threw his hands up or walked up and down the bench...

Same here. Usually once or twice a game, but as mentioned above there were a ton of mistakes. It's funny, sometimes I'm doing the same thing pacing back and forth in front of the tv but that's usually reserved for the tough conference games.
 
It is weird, scoring 100 on anyone these days in college hoops doesn't happen that much.

This is one of the million things that intrigues/frustrates me about this team. We've scored at least 100 twice now, plus had another 99-point game. If all you saw of this team was the SC, Wisc, Yukon, or maybe even the GT game, you would never believe that this team had the firepower to put up 100 points once, let alone basically three times already, with a possible fourth time coming against Cornell next week.
 
Yeah. He called a TO so he could stare down Battle, who gave up a long offensive rebound because he leaked out hoping for a fast break.

Coach Devo must be working w/ Tyus on that part of his game. :p
 
Yep - closing in on 1000 wins. Clearly not working. Nailed it! Congrats!


Is there any evidence that JB's methods of dealing with his players have changed? I still remember him saying that Craig Forth got "one more rebound than a dead man". I think that was three final fours and two other #1 teams ago.
 
did you read this or just cite it ? cuz it is the antithesis of your point.

That is a key point. One of the big negatives for players is when coaches are perceived to have favorites or to play favorites. This is when a coach will lose the trust of the players. Therefore, when treating players fairly, but not equally, the coach must allay those fears...
The first point is important for coaches to learn: Yelling simply does not work with all players. It is not that the player ignores the coach or does not care; instead, as with Ginobili, it often can be that the player cares too much and is his or her own worst critic. Understanding the psychology is important because it alleviates some of the coach and player frustration, and it improves the coach-player dynamic.

The second point is equally important: Many coaches yell at players when the players know that they made the mistake. What’s the point? The coach is not instructing or helping the player. The coach is making him or herself feel better. I once watched a coach who yelled at his players after every mistake and frequently would add, loud enough so everyone heard him, “we practiced that yesterday.” The coach wanted everyone to know it was the player’s fault, not bad coaching. However, that’s terrible coaching! That coach is worried more about his ego than his players or the team. The feedback to a player after a mistake should be informational; otherwise, the coach’s yelling typically increases the frustration that the player already feels.

jb's approach i find is no way constructive. it's simply tear you down. often even in the press. totally uncalled for. and clearly not working.

In the practices I used to attend, JB was always very subdued and proffisorial.
Sometimes, the same mistakes over and over by the same guy can bring the ire.
 
We don't usually have senior starters that can't be counted on to perform even semi consistently from game to game.

Everyone gets treated differently based on what JB believes he can get out of them. Clearly he believes there is something to be gotten out of Roberson given that he has cared enough to make him the whipping boy, but I think he is starting to reach the end of the rope. I think Robie is reaching (maybe reached it two or three games ago) a major turning point. If he doesn't turn it around like almost immediately, his opportunity will be gone and it will be TT's opportunity to lose. TT is already dug significantly into Roberson's playing time. A night like last night was a chance for Robie to move the needle back towards himself a bit...not sure he did that. At some point JB has got to say its not worth continuing to make the investment in Robie, the investment should be made in TT.
And Robie could end up going the Paul Harris route where he succeeds overseas under a scenario that works for him as a person. Some kids are just more sensitive/adaptable than others.
 
And Robie could end up going the Paul Harris route where he succeeds overseas under a scenario that works for him as a person. Some kids are just more sensitive/adaptable than others.
Roberson should be able to play professionally somewhere if he chooses. But Paul Harris, for all his issues, was a very good and consistently productive player on the court. Roberson, not so much.
 
Paul Harris, for all his issues, was a very good and consistently productive player on the court. .

Well, except for layups.
And free throws.
And 3 pointers.
Oh, and defense. ;)
 
well both players led the CUSE in rebounding. but i guess that's an under appreciated science here.

(edit i peeked at the duke box the other night during our game and saw jefferson had 18 boards . don't know how many he finished with but i bet both K and amile hope roberson plays 6 minutes vs duke,)
 
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Because he was in the Boeheim dog house.

There's a trend here. When Boeheim's critical of a guy, a big chunk of fans don't like him and don't forget it.
True, but plenty of JB's favorites have also received a lot of hate over the years.

Harris came in with so much hype and such impossibly high expectations. Some were actually expecting him to be a smaller version of LeBron James, and never got over it.
 
True, but plenty of JB's favorites have also received a lot of hate over the years.

Harris came in with so much hype and such impossibly high expectations. Some were actually expecting him to be a smaller version of LeBron James, and never got over it.

You're right, that hurt perception as well.
 
On the right college team Harris would have been a great small forward. He wasn't meant to be a 2 guard.
 
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give them liberty , equality and fraternity. and we grow stronger .
Did not work so well for the French. They chose redistribution over property rights. THey were ignorant of Locke. Burke. Supported our revolution and condemed the French from the bffeginning. As Friedman said, "a society that puts equality above freedom will get neither."
 

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