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Thanks. I forgot how much I liked that song (and the video)."Electric Avenue"
Thanks. I forgot how much I liked that song (and the video)."Electric Avenue"
Classic, and Jerami "Electric Avenue" Grant flows nicely.Thanks. I forgot how much I liked that song (and the video).
I've got nothing, so I'll go with Jerami "Stretch" Grant for now.
Here's the original post where it all started.
Artificially imposed nicknames never work - good nicknames just happen.
That was just to get the thread going. Looks like it worked......for most people.Artificially imposed nicknames never work - good nicknames just happen.
That was just to get the thread going. Looks like it worked......for most people.
I don't know about a nickname, but I will say this - he is the first player here since Melo to have a respectable outside touch, but then have the ability to spin, put the ball on the floor, elevate with purpose, and finish with authority. He may not shoot as well or have a floor game as good as Melo, but he is more athletic and quicker. It's early yet, but I see some James Worthy in him.
I'm hoping JB gives him the green light to continue to be aggressive offensively. One of my pet peeves about SU basketball is that the players have always been tentative and afraid to make aggressive moves to the basket. Few players if any are allowed to play with swagger and confidence, as in "I'm going to break you down, jump as high as I can, and attack the rim, and you can't stop me." Grant has the tools to develop into that kind of player, and the pedigree to back it up. I hope he gets to that level.
I respectfully disagree. JB develops his players to play like he did - cerebral and reserved, risk-averse. One manifestation of this is that we typically do not start games well. JB does not like his players to get fired up like other teams do. And rarely does one see an SU player shoot unconsciously or attack the basket with abandon. We always revert to playing as if we don't want to make a mistake - aiming our shots, getting to spots a step late on defense because we are thinking too much. That does not make for optimal basketball.If somebody's consistently good at something, they are allowed to do it here.
All due respect but I have no idea what type of SU bball you've been watching all these years.I respectfully disagree. JB develops his players to play like he did - cerebral and reserved, risk-averse. One manifestation of this is that we typically do not start games well. JB does not like his players to get fired up like other teams do. And rarely does one see an SU player shoot unconsciously or attack the basket with abandon. We always revert to playing as if we don't want to make a mistake - aiming our shots, getting to spots a step late on defense because we are thinking too much. That does not make for optimal basketball.
I respectfully disagree. JB develops his players to play like he did - cerebral and reserved, risk-averse. One manifestation of this is that we typically do not start games well. JB does not like his players to get fired up like other teams do. And rarely does one see an SU player shoot unconsciously or attack the basket with abandon. We always revert to playing as if we don't want to make a mistake - aiming our shots, getting to spots a step late on defense because we are thinking too much. That does not make for optimal basketball.
Whoa, there. That hardly sounds like the method of a coach who has won ~75% of his games, and is closing in on 900 wins.I respectfully disagree. JB develops his players to play like he did - cerebral and reserved, risk-averse. One manifestation of this is that we typically do not start games well. JB does not like his players to get fired up like other teams do. And rarely does one see an SU player shoot unconsciously or attack the basket with abandon. We always revert to playing as if we don't want to make a mistake - aiming our shots, getting to spots a step late on defense because we are thinking too much. That does not make for optimal basketball.
Um, really? How long have you been watching SU? Playing down to opponents, throwing unnecessary oops, forcing passes, etc. Is the opposite of risk averse. One of the last adjectives I would use to describe SU hoops is cerebral.I respectfully disagree. JB develops his players to play like he did - cerebral and reserved, risk-averse. One manifestation of this is that we typically do not start games well. JB does not like his players to get fired up like other teams do. And rarely does one see an SU player shoot unconsciously or attack the basket with abandon. We always revert to playing as if we don't want to make a mistake - aiming our shots, getting to spots a step late on defense because we are thinking too much. That does not make for optimal basketball.
Um, really? How long have you been watching SU? Playing down to opponents, throwing unnecessary oops, forcing passes, etc. Is the opposite of risk averse. One of the last adjectives I would use to describe SU hoops is cerebral.
Making them play his defense, sure. But JB doesn't really have an offense besides letting them play.
As far as how long I've been watching SU, suffice it to say I've been watching SU since Dave Bing was JB's teammate - along with Richie Cornwall, George Hicker, Vaughn Harper, and Rick Dean. Ah, the unique smell of Manley Field House, with its dirt floor. JJ Jackson singing "It's All Right" while Harper did his Globetrotter thing wearing an orange beret. Coach Fred Lewis, and Joel Mareiniss on WSYR 570 AM.
And my use of "cerebral" does not necessarily equate with "smart". It means they think too much, instead of playing by instinct. I will agree with you that "JB doesn't really have an offense besides letting them play", but as individuals, they have to play his way, and that often leads to "playing down to opponents, throwing unnecessary oops, forcing passes" because they aren't playing with confidence and swagger. One term you have NEVER heard in association with JB's teams is "killer instinct". Because JB doesn't coach it, doesn't promote it, and arguably, doesn't even allow it. It's part of his upbringing - he comes from a family of funeral directors. Very reserved, professional, meticulous, compassionate. All great qualities for a person, and a coach. But he is not a passionate killer, like Coach K, or Bobby Knight, or Calipari. IMHO.
We see the same symptoms, but our opinions differ as to the cause.
Wow.As far as how long I've been watching SU, suffice it to say I've been watching SU since Dave Bing was JB's teammate - along with Richie Cornwall, George Hicker, Vaughn Harper, and Rick Dean. Ah, the unique smell of Manley Field House, with its dirt floor. JJ Jackson singing "It's All Right" while Harper did his Globetrotter thing wearing an orange beret. Coach Fred Lewis, and Joel Mareiniss on WSYR 570 AM.
And my use of "cerebral" does not necessarily equate with "smart". It means they think too much, instead of playing by instinct. I will agree with you that "JB doesn't really have an offense besides letting them play", but as individuals, they have to play his way, and that often leads to "playing down to opponents, throwing unnecessary oops, forcing passes" because they aren't playing with confidence and swagger. One term you have NEVER heard in association with JB's teams is "killer instinct". Because JB doesn't coach it, doesn't promote it, and arguably, doesn't even allow it. It's part of his upbringing - he comes from a family of funeral directors. Very reserved, professional, meticulous, compassionate. All great qualities for a person, and a coach. But he is not a passionate killer, like Coach K, or Bobby Knight, or Calipari. IMHO.
We see the same symptoms, but our opinions differ as to the cause.
I've got nothing, so I'll go with Jerami "Stretch" Grant for now.
Here's the original post where it all started.