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[CorduroyG]

OUTLOOK

The Orange have a number of good wins, but the loss at home to Pitt and a tough finishing schedule have them back on the bubble for the moment. They are only 11-9 against the top 200 RPI teams, and that doesn't include the loss to St. John's.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Biggest game of the year against Nc State.

 

[CorduroyG]

Not sure i agree with "tough finishing schedule". Home nc state and at unc and fsu aint exactly murderer's row. 1 extremely tough game and 2 very winnable games.

 

[NineOneSeven]

We are due for a start like we had against ND and FSU.

 

[orangenirvana]

Biggest game of the year against Nc State.

And then @UNC is the biggest game.

And then @FSU is the biggest game.

And then our first ACC Tourney game is the biggest game.

And so on...

 

[Ryand877]

And then @UNC is the biggest game.

And then @FSU is the biggest game.

And then our first ACC Tourney game is the biggest game.

And so on...

Exactly. We control our own destiny. If we don't win some of these games, we don't deserve the NCAA bid.

 

[RF2044]

And then @UNC is the biggest game.

And then @FSU is the biggest game.

And then our first ACC Tourney game is the biggest game.

And so on...

Spot on.

 

[cuseinseattle]

I think we win @FSU and home against NC State. Just my opinion.

 

[chlywtr]

I think we win @FSU and home against NC State. Just my opinion.

We'd better

 

[rrlbees]

And then @UNC is the biggest game. And then @FSU is the biggest game. And then our first ACC Tourney game is the biggest game. And so on...

I think the NC game will be the biggest.

 

[Knicks411]

The 11-9 against the RPI top 200 kind of worries me a little

 

[pearl31]

The 11-9 against the RPI top 200 kind of worries me a little

Among the other teams he has listed on the same "in for now" bubble watch page, and doesn't mention anything about record vs top 200...

Alabama: 11-11 vs RPI 200
ucon: 11-8 vs RPI 200

It's another arbitrary number that could possibly be used. Top 25/50/100 wins (and as few sub-100 losses as possible - of which we have only 1) are clearly more important

 

[orangenirvana]

The 11-9 against the RPI top 200 kind of worries me a little

I can't imagine the committee using that statistic. I mean, what would be the point?

Then again the committee could be doing nothing but lighting their farts on fire for all I know.

 

[Knicks411]

To be fair, I have no idea if they use that or not. I just mean I've spent this entire time thinking we'd be ok because of the high quality wins we have (and I still think we're ok at 9-9). But that particular number did give me pause, that's all.

 

[Col. Bleep]

OUTLOOK

They are only 11-9 against the top 200 RPI teams

Where does this made up stat even come from?
We go 2 of the next 3 and we have 20 wins...at least 3 over current top 25 (Duke, Texas A & M, Notre Dame)
We're in.

 

[Ajflood12]

Exactly. We control our own destiny. If we don't win some of these games, we don't deserve the NCAA bid.

I agree...I said the identical thing two days ago and got crushed. We are in control but a loss to NC state or Florida State and it will be tough.

 

[cuseguy]

I agree...I said the identical thing two days ago and got crushed. We are in control but a loss to NC state or Florida State and it will be tough.

Two more wins -- regular season or ACC tourney -- and I think we're in. Need to get to 20.

 

[cuseinseattle]

The 11-9 against the RPI top 200 kind of worries me a little

We are not 11-9. Aren't we 11-4? Losses without JB don't count per the NCAA selection committee.

 

[Knicks411]

We are not 11-9. Aren't we 11-4? Losses without JB don't count per the NCAA selection committee.

Committee never said that. They said they'd take his absence into consideration. That could mean anything.

 

[tee1222]

We are not 11-9. Aren't we 11-4? Losses without JB don't count per the NCAA selection committee.

Hulk Smash!

 

[Madbiker]

If we get the wins against NC St and FSU that will be 10 ACC wins and we get in. If we split and end 9-9 we'll be on the bubble and it will depend on what others do...could easily get left out. I'm assuming we are 1 win and out in ACCT.

 

[sugrad68]

And then @UNC is the biggest game.

And then @FSU is the biggest game.

And then our first ACC Tourney game is the biggest game.

And so on...

NC state is huge. Win that and UNC is less important since no one expects us to win. Lose to NC State and UNC
becomes much more important. Lose 5 in a row, and maybe 4 of 5, and it's hello NIT, barring a miracle in the ACC tournament.

 

[jdubs30]

NC state is huge. Win that and UNC is less important since no one expects us to win. Lose to NC State and UNC
becomes much more important. Lose 5 in a row, and maybe 4 of 5, and it's hello NIT, barring a miracle in the ACC tournament.

We can't go into the ACCT needing to make a monster run. Our lack of depth won't fair in a situation where we have to win 3 or 4 days in a row; in November it was OK, but after 30 games...

 

[PoppyHart]

If RPI is meaningless as an "end" tool, why is it important as "means" tool?

If you can't base the bracket (with a straight face) strictly on RPI, then who cares how many top 50, 100, 200 RPI wins or losses a team has?

 

[pearl31]

If RPI is meaningless as an wins"end" tool, why is it important as "means" tool?

If you can't base the bracket (with a straight face) strictly on RPI, then who cares how many top 50, 100, 200 RPI wins or losses a team has?

so you're saying it should all just be "eye test"?