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[jncuse]

If RPI is meaningless as an wins"end" tool, why is it important as "means" tool?

If you can't base the bracket (with a straight face) strictly on RPI, then who cares how many top 50, 100, 200 RPI wins or losses a team has?

Precision..

If you are going to use RPI as the only means to rank individual teams then it matters greatly if your RPI is 42 or 49... and nobody expects or wants RPI to be the sole measuring stick.

If you are going to use it to group teams and your records against a group of teams, RPI doesn't have to be so precise for each team... it just needs to put teams in the right range. (of course it could be problematic right around the 50 range... but they seem to adjust for that by viewing wins over an at large team as a quality win)

 

[PoppyHart]

so you're saying it should all just be "eye test"?

No, I actually like the RPI. Just think we have to be careful not to focus on records vs. others based on RPI and then discard or go to great depths to justify the end figure.

 

[pearl31]

No, I actually like the RPI. Just think we have to be careful not to focus on records vs. others based on RPI and then discard or go to great depths to justify the end figure.

yeah I agree with that

 

[jncuse]

No, I actually like the RPI. Just think we have to be careful not to focus on records vs. others based on RPI and then discard or go to great depths to justify the end figure.

What team do you think people have been trying to justify the RPI by picking and choosing?

 

[Briancuse]

Have to get 2 of the next 3.

 

[PoppyHart]

What team do you think people have been trying to justify the RPI by picking and choosing?

I think any team, or at least their supporters, outside the top-30-35 RPI is on some sort of spin control.

 

[jncuse]

I think any team, or at least their supporters, outside the top-30-35 RPI is on some sort of spin control.

The fact that you thought Ohio St had a decent resume yesterday and was being slept on, shows that spin is not really the problem here...

 

[PoppyHart]

The fact that you thought Ohio St had a decent resume yesterday and was being slept on, shows that spin is not really the problem here...

If you were to have read my post, you would see that you actually agreed with it! My post simply pointed out that IF they were to win 2 of their final 3 games, they'd be a tournament team. The unstated rationale, as I'm sure you're able to deduce, is that it would imply a 12-6 record in the Big 10 with wins over UK, UM, and some combination of MSU * 2 or MSU + Iowa. If that is not a tournament team in 2016 then I'd eat my hat.

You agreed that scenario put them on the "right side of the bubble". Indeed, you agreed they were "in the discussion" with merely one win. Yet you somehow figured out a way to bifurcate "in the discussion" and "very much in play". An amazing grasp of the nuances of the English language if ever I've seen.

Please point to where I said OSU had a "decent resume", which I interpret to mean an NCAA tournament resume, prior to those 3 games being contested.

 

[Briancuse]

If you were to have read my post, you would see that you actually agreed with it! My post simply pointed out that IF they were to win 2 of their final 3 games, they'd be a tournament team. The unstated rationale, as I'm sure you're able to deduce, is that it would imply a 12-6 record in the Big 10 with wins over UK, UM, and some combination of MSU * 2 or MSU + Iowa. If that is not a tournament team in 2016 then I'd eat my hat.

You agreed that scenario put them on the "right side of the bubble". Indeed, you agreed they were "in the discussion" with merely one win. Yet you somehow figured out a way to bifurcate "in the discussion" and "very much in play". An amazing grasp of the nuances of the English language if ever I've seen.

Please point to where I said OSU had a "decent resume", which I interpret to mean an NCAA tournament resume, prior to those 3 games being contested.

No one knows for sure, but when it comes to Syracuse and the bubble, good things don't happen. Unless we find a way to get 2 of the next 3, and win a game in Dc, I will be a nervous wreck.

 

[kirbivore]

And then @UNC is the biggest game.

And then @FSU is the biggest game.

And then our first ACC Tourney game is the biggest game.

And so on...