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Message: [QUOTE="KaiserUEO, post: 308435, member: 272"] bees youve lost it. this is black and white. the NC. the 2 semis. the rose. the champ the Orange. and the Orange has the ACC tie in. do you just want to make a point that only 2 bowls matter?? then good for you, the bowls have barely mattered for 100+ years. the Orange WILL BE in the rotation for the semis, and MIAMI, if it chooses, can bid on the Champ game. i realize you doubt they will. its not like theyve ever hosted a SuperBowl or anything... what dont you see??? this is the common consesus of common sense. and common sense, always wins. Oh Lord [/QUOTE]