Just heard the tape, and, uh, well...

[Orangemen]

@ck.

To me, it's done, he's guilty as can be. He needs to be gone ASAP.

I hope no one at SU ever knew about this tape. If they did we go down like PSU, and we deserve it.

He needs to be fired, JB needs to apologize in some capacity.

I truly hope the school knew nothing about this. The only thing that could make child molestation worse is an institutional cover up/complicity.

The program is absolutely on the line right now. There are some very serious questions to answer. I sincerely hope those answers are the right ones.

 

[CuseIsInTheHouse]

He needs to be fired, JB needs to apologize in some capacity.

SU probably shouldn't terminate Bernie for being gay. That won't go over well. That's all Bernie is guilty of at this point.

 

[Orangemen]

SU probably shouldn't terminate Bernie for being gay. That won't go over well. That's all Bernie is guilty of at this point.

I heard much more than that in the tape.

I will concede that I did not hear specific dates in the tape, so that may be the last line of defense. But I'm not buying it.

 

[Ghost]

They're terminating him for lots of reasons at this point. Bad publicity, inability to do his job, etc...lots of "etc."

 

[orangenirvana]

I heard much more than that in the tape.

You did? Where?

I don't want to be "that guy" who buries his head in the sand and defends everyone blind. That's not my intent.

But nowhere in that tape is there proof that Fine had sexual relations with underage boys. And I'm not being naive. It just is what it is.

 

[Orangemen]

You did? Where?

I don't want to be "that guy" who buries his head in the sand and defends everyone blind. That's not my intent.

But nowhere in that tape is there proof that Fine had sexual relations with underage boys. And I'm not being naive. It just is what it is.

Explicitly when she says 'you were a boy then, you're a man now.'

Implicitly, throughout the whole tape.

 

[Rocco]

What a cluster

 

[liljoe]

SU probably shouldn't terminate Bernie for being gay. That won't go over well. That's all Bernie is guilty of at this point.

Exactly.

 

[jr4750]

Explicitly when she says 'you were a boy then, you're a man now.'

Implicitly, throughout the whole tape.

Not an apologist either, I'm as mad as can be at Bernie, but I simply want to add that to a 50 year old woman, an 18 - 22 year old is a boy...

 

[orangenirvana]

Explicitly when she says 'you were a boy then, you're a man now.'

Implicitly, throughout the whole tape.

That doesn't mean anything. To a 50-some year old woman, a 30 year old could be what she considers a "boy."

 

[rstone7727]

Formerly, I was on Bernie's side and defended him. But with the introduction of this tape and having heard the whole thing, I'm of the opinion that BF is very guilty. Time to admit it and hope for the best here.
The best being that there will not be a wholesale house cleaning on the hill. Given all the evidence so far though, I think there will be a big time house cleaning including JB, BF, Hop and possibly others that were around Davis at all..

 

[EastCoast2]

What a cluster

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