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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4048751, member: 5685"] Agree with everything but marked improvement. Are we really all that improved from 2019? We can prove it these next 2 games. But 2 losses means more of the same. And you need to revisit years 1 and 2 now. Year 1: only 2 ACC Ws which was worst in division and 3rd worst in conference. Dungey went down with us 4-5. Maybe we beat NC State if he is healthy. Going 4-8 is a failed season. Year 2: lost to Middle Tennessee and only 2 ACC Ws. Which was worst record in division and 2nd worst in conference. Again Dungey went down with us 4-5. Maybe the BC game is different but our D was so bad those last 3 games, I doubt he makes a difference. Going 4-8 is a failed season. Those 2 seasons should now be held against him. Year 4: only 2 ACC Ws which was 6th in division and tied for 12th overall. The last placed team in the ACC beat us that year. Year 5: only 1 W overall and in conference. Which was the worst record in the ACC since Duke beat us. Tommy went down with us 1-3. If he were healthy we maybe have a chance in 3 of those losses. Even if we somehow won those 3 games we are 4-7 which is a failed season. Year 6: only 2 ACC Ws thus far. If we lose our last 2 then only one team will have less losses than us in conference. That will make 5 out of 6 years where we were 12th or worse in the ACC overall and 4 out of 5 years where we were 6th or last in division. Not making a bowl is a failed season. 2018 is great but it can't make up for 5 bad seasons. Shafer deserved to be fired but with his backup QB he went 4-8 (2-6) the year he was fired. Even the year before he got an ACC W with his starting QB out. And Shafer's last year we lost a lot of close games. So Dino has improved us vs 2015 how exactly? 2015 24-17 in 4th Q vs LSU with Mahoney at QB 6 point OT loss at UVA with a true frosh Dungey 3 point loss on game ending FG to Pitt 34-27 in 4th Q vs Clemson with Mahoney as QB I fail to see how Dino 2016, 2017, 2019, 2020, 2021 is an improvement over Shafer 2015 should we lose these next 2 games. The records are the same and the games aren't any closer. Both 2016 and 2017 were a huge improvement in O, but were equally a huge set back on D. It evened out. We cannot be blinded by 50 passes a game if the end result is no different. These next 2 games are huge. Any other program would fire Dino if he goes 0-2. [/QUOTE]

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