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Message: [QUOTE="SoBristol, post: 266668, member: 485"] How Mac built SU -- Donnie McPherson, dynamic RBs (Michael Owens) and WRs (Moore, Kane, Ismail), guys like Daryl Johnston at FB, Pat Kelly at TE, and an upgrade at OL. That, plus a system (freeze option) that could use the talent. Mac was selling better athletes on coming to SU. He struggled on the field until his impact on the recruiting trails could convert into a dynamic offense -- and a lot of that success came with landing skill guys to upgrade the talent. And this what we haven't seen -- yet -- with Marrone. Maybe it takes time to build networks or better facilities. Maybe you need wins first. Maybe the world is different (UConn & Rutgers & Pitt hitting our recruiting regions). Maybe Syracuse as a region has declined in population and tone. Lots of excuses. But by year 4 you would like to see some excitement -- [/QUOTE]