Kyle Knapp

[DownTheField]

Let me guess: He's going to see the same neurologist who cleared AJ Long the other day.

 

[retro44]

Let me guess: He's going to see the same neurologist who cleared AJ Long the other day.

Didn't know that Roger Goodell was a neurologist

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

7 concussions in one year of practice at o-line?

He must be related to this guy.

 

[Ish88888]

Seriously fellas, this ultra conservative doc in over his head and practicing cover your ass medicine has stymied some of our best talent. Every hard hit isn't a concussion. Its the blindside hits where the athlete cant brace his skull using neck muscles. There are huge face to face collisions all throughout a football game. This is on the administration to employ some progressive, well informed neurological experts to on keep our talent on the dam field!

 

[rrlbees]

I heard that KK will transfer to W. Michigan to continue his FB career. Word is that he may have suffered as many as 7 concussions while at SU. Apparently he is very unhappy with his medical disqualification.

I find it hard to believe he's had 7. We disqualify them after 3.

 

[ClkWrkOrange]

Are we seriously allowing a GP to decide these things?

 

[JackBauer44]

Do people really think a family doctor is providing concussion desicisons for a division 1 program? Come on guys. Let's be real. You realllllllly think they don't see a neuro doctor? If you don't, I'd like to talk to you about an amazing timeshare opportunity.

 

[Bortukal]

Are we seriously allowing a GP to decide these things?

It's been reported that way.

Team physician Dr. James Tucker reviewed Long's concussion history and ruled that he cannot participate in football or any other contact sport at Syracuse.

For the record, just because he's a GP doesn't mean he's not qualified to make a ruling on this. My sense is that the coaching staff, in looking out for the best interests of the players, chose to adopt a very conservative approach. I can't fault them for that.

 

[RF2044]

I did hear from someone connected to the program that we have a family physician and not a neurologist making these concussion rulings and that he is super conservative to cover his ass. Anything resembling a concussion and any big hit to the head and shoulder area is being treated as a concussion. I work in healthcare and know that every big hit isnt a concussion. Kids are not happy with our system.

Paging Cuseregular...

 

[Bayside44]

I heard that KK will transfer to W. Michigan to continue his FB career.

Word is that he may have suffered as many as 7 concussions while at SU. Apparently he is very unhappy with his medical disqualification.

Does he have parents or guardians?

 

[RMH44]

Does he have parents or guardians?

No idea.

 

[Moontan]

No idea.

His SU bio lists a father and mother. His father played at WMU. His sister was/is enrolled at Whitman.

 

[orangeintheacc]

Our family wanted to go quietly from SU, but this thread has my blood boiling. Kyle does in fact have parents, I happen to be his dad. Other than the obvious football stuff, Kyle and our family have had a great experience at SU. We've met a lot of great people - parents, faculty and fans that have welcomed us with open arms.

Just to set the record straight Kyle had 2 concussions - the "3rd" one that Tucker DQ'd him for was questionable -even Dr. Tucker wasn't sure about it. So no, he did not have anywhere near 7 concussions.
As far as I know, Dr. Tucker is a GP. He has the final say with regard to medical DQs. We asked and he would not allow us to get a second opinion from a neurologist or anyone else. In a phone call Dr. tucker said Kyle was done and that was it.

On our own dime we took Kyle to a concussion specialist at UPMC. He literally knew within 5 minutes what was wrong with him and he couldn't believe SU's people couldn't see it themselves. Kyle's eyes weren't converging which made him susceptible to getting concussions. 7 weeks of eye therapy later his baseline tests were back to normal or above. The Dr. At UPMC had zero qualms about Kyle playing again. neither did the other doctor we saw. Unfortunately, SU had already moved on.

Our family loves football, but we would never put his future at risk if we thought it was dangerous to his future. Kyle wanted to play for SU more than anything. I don't think he deserves some of the stupid crap in this thread.

 

[Shark58]

Our family wanted to go quietly from SU, but this thread has my blood boiling. Kyle does in fact have parents, I happen to be his dad. Other than the obvious football stuff, Kyle and our family have had a great experience at SU. We've met a lot of great people - parents, faculty and fans that have welcomed us with open arms.

Just to set the record straight Kyle had 2 concussions - the "3rd" one that Tucker DQ'd him for was questionable -even Dr. Tucker wasn't sure about it. So no, he did not have anywhere near 7 concussions.
As far as I know, Dr. Tucker is a GP. He has the final say with regard to medical DQs. We asked and he would not allow us to get a second opinion from a neurologist or anyone else. In a phone call Dr. tucker said Kyle was done and that was it.

On our own dime we took Kyle to a concussion specialist at UPMC. He literally knew within 5 minutes what was wrong with him and he couldn't believe SU's people couldn't see it themselves. Kyle's eyes weren't converging which made him susceptible to getting concussions. 7 weeks of eye therapy later his baseline tests were back to normal or above. The Dr. At UPMC had zero qualms about Kyle playing again. neither did the other doctor we saw. Unfortunately, SU had already moved on.

Our family loves football, but we would never put his future at risk if we thought it was dangerous to his future. Kyle wanted to play for SU more than anything. I don't think he deserves some of the stupid crap in this thread.

don't let stupid internet crap get under your skin.

thanks for shedding some internal light on the medical situation and nothing but best wishes to you, Kyle and the rest of your family going forward

 

[Deano]

I totally agree Mr. Knapp. I loved your son's film and really though he was going to be a force on the OL for SU. Really, really wished things would have worked at SU. On behalf of the decent posters we wish him and your family the best in the future. Hopefully he gets a 2nd chance somewhere else too.

 

[anomander]

I'm concerned with our system. Are other programs disqualifying their players at a rate that Syracuse is? I know it's not PC to say this nowadays but there is being cautious, and then there is being destructive to the football program.

Totally agree. As far as I know nobody else had anywhere near the same policy. I also believe this was a Shafer policy, and not a University policy correct? I can definitely see this changing. There are different definitions of a concussion too. Plus I don't think anyone technically nears to clear these kids to play again if they transfer? It's just up to the school to accept them knowing their past.

 

[anomander]

Our family wanted to go quietly from SU, but this thread has my blood boiling. Kyle does in fact have parents, I happen to be his dad. Other than the obvious football stuff, Kyle and our family have had a great experience at SU. We've met a lot of great people - parents, faculty and fans that have welcomed us with open arms. Just to set the record straight Kyle had 2 concussions - the "3rd" one that Tucker DQ'd him for was questionable -even Dr. Tucker wasn't sure about it. So no, he did not have anywhere near 7 concussions. As far as I know, Dr. Tucker is a GP. He has the final say with regard to medical DQs. We asked and he would not allow us to get a second opinion from a neurologist or anyone else. In a phone call Dr. tucker said Kyle was done and that was it. On our own dime we took Kyle to a concussion specialist at UPMC. He literally knew within 5 minutes what was wrong with him and he couldn't believe SU's people couldn't see it themselves. Kyle's eyes weren't converging which made him susceptible to getting concussions. 7 weeks of eye therapy later his baseline tests were back to normal or above. The Dr. At UPMC had zero qualms about Kyle playing again. neither did the other doctor we saw. Unfortunately, SU had already moved on. Our family loves football, but we would never put his future at risk if we thought it was dangerous to his future. Kyle wanted to play for SU more than anything. I don't think he deserves some of the stupid crap in this thread.

This is exactly why I thought our concussion protocol and the decision to automatically Dq kids after 3 is total BS. And to hear he isn't allowing 2nd opinions? What?

Just to think Dungey could have been 1 "concussion" away from being Dq'd when 1 of them is questionable. Have to think most of this was just to save their own ass.

In regards to Kyle I have always been a huge fan. I wish you, Kyle, and the rest of your family nothing but the best... On the football field and off.

 

[llandz]

Our players should be allowed to get a 2nd opinion, and then everyone can sit down and review the results and make an intelligent final determination using all of the available information. This is not saying that the 2nd opinion necessarily overrules the original decision, but we all know that sometimes Drs. do make errors. This is not any different than if you had cancer or some other terrible illness and went for a 2nd opinion. That should be allowed. In Kyle's case they found something else. At least we should look at all of the options. And if someone wants to see a specialist over a GP then they should do that, and Syracuse University and the football staff should at least afford the courtesy to have a conference at that point to make one final determination.

 

[djorange1989]

It is ludicrous that a GP is making concussion decisions. He might as well have stayed in a Holiday Inn once. All the best to you, Kyle and your family, Mr Knapp

 

[O-pulse]

Kyle is a good person and an excellent student. He will do well moving forward.
It is very difficult for athletes to give up their sport which has dominated their time, focus and efforts for such a long time. IMO Kyle will work through this and come out in good shape.

 

[oldpinepoint]

I actually think Their concussion policy is fine, and in the future will probably be copied by more programs. It's very conservative and when your dealing with concussions it probably should be. The game is extremely violent and I would bet a lot of concussions go undiagnosed. The school needs to be conservative, to protect the student athlete but also the school.

 

[sutomcat]

Our family wanted to go quietly from SU, but this thread has my blood boiling. Kyle does in fact have parents, I happen to be his dad. Other than the obvious football stuff, Kyle and our family have had a great experience at SU. We've met a lot of great people - parents, faculty and fans that have welcomed us with open arms.

Just to set the record straight Kyle had 2 concussions - the "3rd" one that Tucker DQ'd him for was questionable -even Dr. Tucker wasn't sure about it. So no, he did not have anywhere near 7 concussions.
As far as I know, Dr. Tucker is a GP. He has the final say with regard to medical DQs. We asked and he would not allow us to get a second opinion from a neurologist or anyone else. In a phone call Dr. tucker said Kyle was done and that was it.

On our own dime we took Kyle to a concussion specialist at UPMC. He literally knew within 5 minutes what was wrong with him and he couldn't believe SU's people couldn't see it themselves. Kyle's eyes weren't converging which made him susceptible to getting concussions. 7 weeks of eye therapy later his baseline tests were back to normal or above. The Dr. At UPMC had zero qualms about Kyle playing again. neither did the other doctor we saw. Unfortunately, SU had already moved on.

Our family loves football, but we would never put his future at risk if we thought it was dangerous to his future. Kyle wanted to play for SU more than anything. I don't think he deserves some of the stupid crap in this thread.

Sorry about some of the comments in this thread. Anonymous posting sometimes leads to really poor judgement.

I hope your son is okay and I hope he is able to play college ball somewhere. Loved his film and I think he could be a star if things work out. Do you think there is a chance he might stay at Syracuse if the new staff is more amenable to second opinions, changes SU's protocols for concussions, etc.?