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Message: [QUOTE="JoeSU, post: 504317, member: 309"] Can we stop this nonsense? There is an ethical chasm between lying and being misinformed. A lie is an intentional effort to deceive someone by saying something you know to be untrue. By all accounts, Little was repeating what he had been told by SU brass, who were going on what they had been initially told by FHCDM. Purposefully trying to mislead a recruit under those circumstances would have been foolish, since the truth would come out soon enough. Maybe painting the misinformation as a "lie" helps a recruit justify his decision (which in hind-sight appears to be a poor one), but it shouldn't be at the expense of calling-out Floyd Little's basic integrity as a man. [/QUOTE]