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Message: [QUOTE="manleyzoo, post: 2968298, member: 519"] Other than accusing me of being Frank's HGH dealer, it sounds like our experiences with youth sports are somewhat similar. I didn't say I was sure about Frank and HGH just that the dots connected that way and nothing pointed toward weed, assumptions notwithstanding. I do think the trainers and some of the staff knew. As for high school sports, I just think the coaches who push the kids so hard and draw arbitrary lines of who's worth coaching and who isn't don't care that development is a long process. It's worse at the travel ball level, maybe the worst for soccer. They think they know who can be good but they don't. No one does. They care about their record of Ws and Ls. I know a few kids who couldn't make my son's travel team who went on to get drafted high. Others who started on their D1 baseball teams. Others who played at AA, AAA and two or three in the majors. Others who seemed sure shots but fizzled out at age 18, couldn't hit a slider, but then again, who can? There's always going to be someone bigger and faster than you no matter how righteous your high school coach was. Good for your daughter that she's driven to make the team. Bad for the coach that she draws hard lines that ultimately mean nothing at the next level. For lots of kids that kind of rigor coaches impose leads to burn out when they realize it doesn't translate to playing time in college. That's the hardest lesson that kids unfortunately only learn when they're already in college and look around to see everyone is as good or better than they are no matter how tough their high school coach was. Ultimately, high school sports don't matter one wazoo. [/QUOTE]

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